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Ian Hecht 🇨🇦@pluralistic That would be amazing! Saskatoon, a city of around 250,000, has *four* different parking apps for depending on where in the city you park. It's infuriating...
rabble@ianhecht @pluralistic Wellington is the same, 4 apps. And they strongly push you to keep a balance on each one, changing extra if you just pay for what you need each time you park. Do they make their money on the float like Starbucks does?
Dubi is here 
@rabble @ianhecht @pluralistic Toronto's Green P app has a mininum load of $20 to its wallet, and you can't pay directly
Jon Steege@Dubikan @rabble @ianhecht @pluralistic hey it's like the HOV system in Denver! Want to use it for free for actual HOV purpose? You have to buy a $35 dongle and then keep more than $25 in your account all the time! Even if you never use normal toll ever!
Sam Easterby-Smith@rabble @ianhecht @pluralistic I’m going to be annoying and suggest that parking should involve as much pain, friction, expense, and personal data capture as possible… to discourage car use.
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Steve Root@samsterby hahaha, I applaud the concept even though I need a car for most things (I train for long journeys if I can, it's a start)
@Sroot 🥰 nice. Trick is to minimise (in a systemic way) said “need” where possible. So I’d probably make your train station parking free, and plough money from parking everywhere else into public transport and active travel infrastructure 👍
@rabble @pluralistic I don't know about the balance part - I don't see any penalties on the app for just paying each time I need parking, but maybe I'm missing it.
RichardMy reckon on the parking app we have here (Wellington NZ) is that it's worth it just for the start/stop pay-only-for-the-time-you-use function alone.
@Richardelwin @pluralistic That would be great - all four (!) of ours are just discrete blocks of time (by the ½ hour, usually).
@ianhecht @pluralistic That would be quite annoying🥺