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bdonnellyI’m 56 years old. Which means I’m about to endure my fourth cycle of twenty-something year old dudes discovering the weight room and Ayn Rand shit like they’ve just unlocked Enlightenment itself and by god I’m fucking so tired of it. And now they have podcasts.
I just heard “let me tell you about this criticism of woke culture that I learned in the weight room - there’s this thing called radical responsibility where you own everything that happens to you…” and threw my phone across the room.
It’s like all these dudes since the 80s have been “I’ll just be Henry Rollins but like an edgy reactionary douchebag Rollins…”
CLM@Theblueone
Oh my. 100% this!!!
Oh my. 100% this!!!
aredsquirrel@Theblueone Systemic problems associated with wealth inequality? no, instead: look at yourself, 'clean your room,'..
radical responsibility is a new one to me, a re-hashed pull yourself from bootstraps garbage.
Of course if everyone just looks solely at their individual selves then the robber in the room has a much easier time.
simonbp@Theblueone "Radical responsibility" sounds like something an adult in an early Simpsons season would say in response to Bart telling them to consume his undergarments.
Enema Cowboy"Since 1973, however, free-market theorists had re-emerged, vociferous and confident, to blame endemic economic recession and attendant woes upon ‘big government’ and the dead hand of taxation and planning that it placed upon national energies and initiative...
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@Theblueone …In many places this rhetorical strategy was quite seductive to younger voters with no first-hand experience of the baneful consequences of such views the last time they had gained intellectual ascendancy, half a century before. But only in Britain were the political disciples of Hayek and Friedman able to seize control of public policy and wreak a radical transformation in the country’s political culture."
- Tony Judt, Postwar
Winter TrabexAdherents to Ayn Rand don't seem to understand that Howard Roark was a terrible person.
Patrick Morris Miller@trabex @Theblueone Adherents to Ayn Rand don't understand that Ayn Rand was a terrible person.
Darwin WoodkaMe in the weight room to grunting 20 something dudebros when I was a 55 yo woman: "Hey"
Dudebro: 'Sup?
Me: "Are you done with that weight bar? That's the weight I usually use."
Venita@Theblueone This is the funniest thread I've read today. 😂😂
Aviva Gary
Jennifer@Theblueone LOL. I read Atlas Shrugged when I was in college in the 1980s. I thought it was a good novel. Then I learned some people thought it was a good model for government. As a history major I was like 😆😆😆 Happy that was pre internet and podcasts
Robert Link@Jennifer @Theblueone As a novel it was, oh, roughly 1,150 pages longer than it needed to be.
troy_friz_zellI read about a third of it in the '80s and just gave up and stopped.
Everything was just so flat. The good guys were super good. The bad guys were super bad.
I need at least some nuance and there just wasn't any. I remember thinking, "this is just bad writing." Nothing I've seen since has changed my opinion.
@troy_frizzell @Theblueone I read it 35 years ago and don't remember it very much. My taste in fiction is very different now and I'm pretty sure I'd hate it if I decided to reread, especially now that i know Republicans see it as some sort of blueprint 🙄
Don Whiteside@Theblueone @lisamelton the worst part of being in my fifties is having to listen to these clowns calling me “afraid” of their ideas because I don’t want to dEbATe Me BrO.
Dude I’m not afraid of your ideas, I’m TIRED of them. You’re offering up the same old shit as a thousand other bozos, unrefined and unimproved because they represent the same facile understanding now as they did when I heard them in Rush lyrics forty years ago.
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Julescelt@Theblueone I'm about to hit 61 and am also so beyond exhausted by these guys.
Someone in college got me to read Rand...it's the only time I've actually thrown a book in the thrash.
It is nice knowing so many people don't buy into that insipid bs.
Final Call@motherearthI feel your pain.
MadisonMonkey@Theblueone oh, and UFC streaming constantly 🙄
BardMoss the Bodhi Linux Guy@Theblueone
I hear you. I'm 71. I got over that s*** real early.
I hear you. I'm 71. I got over that s*** real early.
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Soozcat@Theblueone 54 years old. Honestly feeling this. Though if I'm going to be honest about it, I'm sure I was just as insufferable in my early twenties about different subjects. (Never did go through an Ayn Rand phase... and never will.)
Bornach@Soozcat @Theblueone
My exposure to an Ayn Rand adjacent ideology during my late twenties was admittedly via Eric S Raymond's attempts to hitch a bunch of libertarian philosophy onto the Linux and Free Software movement. But he soon lost me with his Geeks With Guns events and global warming conspiracy nutter bullshit.
https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/05/1054-eric-s-raymond.html?m=1
My exposure to an Ayn Rand adjacent ideology during my late twenties was admittedly via Eric S Raymond's attempts to hitch a bunch of libertarian philosophy onto the Linux and Free Software movement. But he soon lost me with his Geeks With Guns events and global warming conspiracy nutter bullshit.
https://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/05/1054-eric-s-raymond.html?m=1
Mike Fraser@Theblueone OH hey welcome to the same boat.