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Jon Favreau: “Yeah. I mean Mark Esper, Trump's defense Secretary who, you know, said a couple weeks ago that Trump was like, Hey, can't we have the military shoot the protestors, the George Floyd protestors? So that's, that's him over the weekend. He said, there's no way I'll vote for Trump. But every day Trump does something crazy. The door to voting for Biden opens a little more and like that's the exact kind of person that we need.”

pod save man what the fuck is wrong with you. This is who you think biden needs in his voting base?

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He and Lovett were talking shit about purity politics on the left shortly before because i guess people were mad that Biden’s campaign spoke to chris christie.

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“If you have no idea that Joe Biden was able to pass a massive infrastructure bill, if you have no idea that Joe Biden passed the biggest climate investments in history, if you have no idea about all these way in which government has been able to succeed, maybe not in a way that is tangible yet….”

i literally screamed

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MSNBC’s Chris Hayes is on the latest episode. He said, regarding building housing: “Joe Biden actually been very like, forward leading on this, particularly in the last month”

you can’t just remember that you’re the president in the last year of the term and really get to work on housing. You can do marijuana reform, sure. that one is a stroke of the pen. not so much on housing

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Cherish hayes: “They (Judith Butler) think that it (transgender acceptance) doesn’t need to be a threat, and i think it sort of inescapably is. And they’re not… misunderstanding the degree to which it does threaten genrder hierarchies.”

Chris, if you’re gonna use words like misunderstanding about Judith Butler’s theories on gender you gotta come with some receipts. You do not have the credentials to just say stuff.

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I think Lovett wasn’t trying to push back and take up butler’s point but accidentally immediately did. Right before he joked that Chris Hayes was the first straight guy he’s talked to in weeks

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Lovett: “So Trump also hosted a big fundraiser in Palm Beach over the weekend with some of the worst billionaires on the planet. People who profited off of the subprime mortgage crisis, compared higher taxes to the Holocaust and opposed the Civil Rights Act, just to name a few.”

Vietor: “I mean, Jon, just be careful, because for two of those, they could be our billionaires too.”

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pod save men talking about how infrastructure isn’t an important issue to voter but i do suspect that Biden needs to win pennsylvania and maybe it’s a bit of a going concern

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lomi ad read, love a scam compost masticator that costs $600

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Guest, Dem Strategist Terrance Woodbury: “I want to talk a little bit more about the double haters.
This new term of voters that doesn't like Biden or Trump. Well, in fact, I think that these double haters are a little bit broader than that. They are just cynics that don't like Democrats, Republicans, they don't like politicians, they don't like vaccines.
These are all the same folks. The double hater is the same as the vaccine hesitant. They don't like 5G, they don't trust any of this shit.
Well, for that voter, Cornel, who doesn't know Cornel West yet, he is going to speak a lot of their language. He's going to criticize Joe Biden's position in Palestine. He's going to criticize the two-party system.”

fuckin hell

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Woodbury: “this is from a focus group of a voter who said to me, my hood didn't get any better under Obama. It didn't get any worse under Trump.
So what does Biden have to do with me? That's the cynicism that Republicans and Trump are trying to lean into. And that's what we have to combat with the progress that has actually improved their lives.”

Vietor: “And it's understandable cynicism, right? Because presidents have a lot of power, but they don't have unlimited power. Sometimes there's broader economic forces that impact your ability to improve the lives of the people you're working for.”

Wait, i thought biden had the best record on the economy ever?? What’s up with that?

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if you prefer to like alex garland, do *not* listen to his interview on pod save

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Jon Favreau: “So far in 2024, 90 percent, 90 percent of the Biden campaign's television ads have focused on abortion.
And the most aired ad is one in which Trump takes credit for killing Roe and Biden promises to pass a federal guarantee to protect the right to choose.”

When did Biden make that promise again? We’re putting the whole campaign on our belief that americans think it’s good when you fail to deliver on one of your more prominent campaign promises.

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JF: “How much political risks do you think this TikTok ban creates for Biden?”
Alyssa Mastramonaco, guest: “I don't think it's that much risk because it's weirdly the issue that's like United Democrats and Republicans. So I don't think it's great for Biden, but I do think that that gives him some cover.”

Hmm, dems and republicans sure do agree on Tiktok, what’s that other thing that’s going on that they agree on that americans in general absolutely despise? I’m sure it’s nothing important

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if i were bytedance I would withdraw from the US, and do it before the election just because. Not even for some tactical reason, just to fuck with the administration that banned them

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mastramonaco worked on the Kerry campaign lol. I’m so glad i can get political horse race insights like this from a Kerry staffer

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Jon Lovett: “Anonymous sources said that Attorney General Merrick Garland will formally recommend moving marijuana from the Schedule I drug to a Schedule III drug that puts it alongside testosterone and Tylenol.”

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

(he means tylenol + codeine obv)

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“I was walking into Jazz Fest last week and there was some young progressives, kind of multi-hair colored look at me and maybe think maybe I could be somebody that could win over on the issue of gay rights. I don't know. I guess I wasn't dressed gay enough that day.
And so we signed this petition to help support the gay agenda. And I was like, whoa, my old instincts came back out. And I was like, wait a minute, there's no gay agenda.”

Tim Miller, gay republican guest.

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this is the most unhinged episode of pod save i’ve heard in a while. Completely letting a Jeb staffer handle the framing while talking about campus protests and palestine while nodding along.

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Lovett let this guy use the term pro-Jewish counterprotestors, not pro-Zionist or pro-Israel. What the hell man, that’s actually a really gross thing to not push back against on your podcast.

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“But if there are rules and laws against that kind of protest, and if you've been warned about breaking those laws, then part of civil disobedience is accepting the penalty for that. I mean, that's what Dr. King said, right? He said that you should accept the penalty and you should do so civilly, not uncivilly, right?
That was sort of the foundation of his belief in the civil rights movement. And of course, the civil rights activists were not treated civilly, but certainly they acted civilly. Look, I don't think that means that cops should fucking fire rubber bullets at you or tase you or beat the shit out of you, but that's a whole separate problem.”

I’m not sure that really is a separate problem, Dan. (also i don’t think that’s really an accurate framing on King and the civil rights movement)

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“And I know they're trying to work on a deal right now, but he[Biden] has not used all the leverage that he has to try to end this war. So I think when that happens, and hopefully it does happen soon, that's when we'll start to see the protest actually go away.”

Dan Pfeiffer thinks Genocide Joe is gonna start really putting the screws to Benny from Cheltenham any day now. What an absolute fucking goober

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“And our friends at FiveThirtyEight now finally have the averages, the polling averages for states, just so everyone knows. They have North Carolina at 6.6, so Trump's up by 6.6.
Georgia, he's up by 6. Nevada, he's up by 5. And then Arizona's 3, Wisconsin's 3, Pennsylvania's 2.
And Michigan is actually the closest now. And yet Trump's only up by a point and a half there. So tight race, tight race.”

hmm noticing a trend here that would probably be pretty alarming for a certain sitting president, but i’m not the polls geneous

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the Noem soundbite is actually unbelievable

Interviewer: “At the end of the book, you say the very first thing you would do if you got to the White House that was different from Joe Biden, is you'd make sure Joe Biden's dog was nowhere on the grounds, commanders say hello to cricket. Are you doing this to try to look tough? Do you still think that you have a shot at being a VP?”
Kristi Noem: “Well, number one, Joe Biden's dog has attacked 24 secret service people. So how many people is enough people to be attacked and dangerously hurt before you make a decision on a dog and what to do with it? That's the question that the president should be held accountable to.”
I:“You're saying he should be shot?”
KN:“That's what the president should be accountable to, which is, what is the number?”

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Tommy Vietor: “They let Trump ignore its policies on COVID testing and masking, which nearly infected President Biden.
And if people watch that video now, it will just throw you off because Trump looks unwell.”
Jen Psaki: “He looks unwell and also Melania just strolls in with the kids. They're all unmasked. Melania tested positive five days later.”
TV:” So like they could have killed the current president in the United States before he was elected.”

someone get trump on that h5n1 raw milk before the next debate

Will May 3, 2024

@timmy He's literally a shade away from being the white moderate that MLK talked about in Letter from a Birmingham Jail. What a buffoon.

Karin!May 2, 2024

@timmy testosterone is a schedule 3 controlled substance IIRC, that's why you need a prescription for it

(Edit, wait, you don't need a prescription for Tylenol tho...?)

Karin!May 2, 2024

@timmy oh wait, I just got your post, nevermind. My reading comprehension isn't on yet.

Anyway I still think it's weird that testosterone is schedule 3

Tom Magnanimous May 2, 2024

@nirak @timmy fun fact: in the US Tylenol is used as the brand name for acetaminophen, but in Britain it's only used for what we call Tylenol-3 here, which is acetaminophen plus codeine. Once met a British doctor who saw Tylenol being sold otc at a pharmacy in the states and was hella confused

Karin!May 2, 2024

@funkula @timmy oh that's interesting! Drug names are confusing

@timmy hahaha oh boyyyyyy

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i think the thing that pisses me off most about this segment is they go on to say that Cornell West has actual policy positions. So they’ll say he’s got valid political ideas while painting anyone supporting him as a buffoon for not liking Biden. That the “double hater” is just cynical and mad, and incapable of holding a coherent political opinion.

Mr. Q The Pizza Demon Apr 18, 2024

@timmy the smartest democratic strategist

Job Destroyer Apr 18, 2024

This reads like parody lol

Yeah majority of Americans dont like either trump or biden, this spebs both party bases, either side if vaccine "debate" saying theyre "all the same" is so frigging out of touch.

Knowing first hand what a train wreck the Cornel West campaign as been ( he probably won't be on the ballot in most states) its hilarious hearing libs freak out about him still. What theyre terrified of of dissent from the left but then they spend all their energy courting (former) republicans, what a joke

IntrepidVector Jul 8, 2024

@timmy jesus fucking christ

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@IntrepidVector it’s so bad. on that episode they managed to barely take a breath between saying that cornell west has some real political positions and then saying that despite that his supporters are low information.

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