switch to fucking #firefox already you fucking idiots
@pixelnull or safari

@ogg

EeeEewWWwwWwwWww webkit

@pixelnull lol Apple & safari for the win

@ogg

the company couldn't even find a way to buy usb-c ports until last year

@pixelnull time to put your apple hate away, they make outstanding hardware and software.. and its fucking not Microsoft. WebKit is an outstanding bit of kit i used it with KDE before moving to osX

@ogg

while i don't hate on apple anymore, there's still tons of reasons to not like apple hardware and software.

price, hardware lock down,
repair lock down, walled gardens everywhere, etc etc (i'm sure you know all the arguments, not looking to argue v0v)

i use arch btw ;D

@pixelnull we can agree to disagree, as far as teh walked gardens for iOS i agree, my mom is safer as a result. Thier hardware is well worth the price, and it’s cheaper than a PC in the long run due to its reiablity!! ROI on a MAC is 10 years, vs 2 years on a PC at the same price point, FYI
@pixelnull Also, i use Debian on the server side.
@pixelnull will also add, regarding USB-C on iOS devices, I really couldn't care less since I sync everything via the cloud. I haven't used a lighting point in YEARS! AFAIK, Apple should remove all ports on their iPhones, as I use Bluetooth and inductive charging. Thinking back I think its been almost a decade since I had a need for a physical port on a iPhone

@ogg

i'm gonna nope out... i need my mf cords. all my stuff is corded. if i could have a decent phone with a good internal DAC and a headphone jack i would. i miss my lg g8 thinq for that. now i use an external DAC and an inline headphone amp.

it takes all kinds i guess 

@pixelnull understand the need for HQ audio, I phone is not my HQ option for that