@matthew_d_green

and now #meta is trying to run into the #fediverse with #threads, and do to #mastodon what they did to #myspace in 2010. with the same tactics:

1. a public excited friendly face of #interop

2. drain of users

3. when the competitor is a dried husk, turn around and fanatically prevent any interop with #facebook on any level whatsoever

people need to understand what meta is

and have no illusions about what they have done, and what they will do

#adversarialinteroperability

@benroyce
I don't buy this narrative for the simple reason that I don't believe many people on Mastodon are going to move to Threads. The suspicion towards Meta is simply too big. I do expect people to move *to* Mastodon for this reason.

So why does Meta do it? My guess is that they're looking at how legislation, especially from the EU, is developing and they want to be in charge of a network that is compatible with that vision.
@matthew_d_green

@collectifission

To quote:

" - Economy: abolish the money economy and replace it by cybernetic communism, using labourtime as our measurement for planning."

Where does one even begin to critique such a statement?

And yet your thinking on Meta is clear and lucid and grounded in the real world and should be taken seriously?

Really?

And "Green Nuclear" itself

Well then...

cc @benroyce @matthew_d_green

@FinchHaven
I'm not sure how quoting part of my profile is related to my post where I give a brief overview of what I think Meta's business strategy is?

Yes, I think Meta is grounded in reality, capitalist reality of course, dealing with governments that have been annoyed with them for many years and are slowly moving in on them. Mastodon and the Fediverse at large is just their (cynical) attempt to stay ahead of the curve that, ironically, might create a better social network.
@benroyce

@collectifission @FinchHaven

you don't work with the devil in any capacity and somehow the world gets better. you kill the devil. #socialmedia gets better when #Facebook, #Twitter, #Tiktok, etc die. and the #Fediverse's role in that is to help kill them by providing a better #decentralized future without #privacy defilement and #algorithm manipulation. obviously it needs more features. people are working on that

in the meantime, f*** #Threads

let it be absolutely hounded out of the Fediverse

@benroyce
Sadly "the devil" has a lot of users, so at least I'm open to bargaining. Not everyone is looking to get Mastodon to become a real social network, and that's fine. I for one am interested in interacting with hundreds of millions of users.

Mastodon enables me to do that on my terms, not on Meta's. But say Meta pulls the plug, which again I don't expect, then there's nothing that disables us from keeping to use the Fediverse. I don't think this is another XMPP scenario.

@tivasyk
I could turn that around, make a statement about this tiny yet loud group of people in this fediblock thing harming the general mood, but where would that bring us?

I honestly don't see the elevator pitch of the fediblock crowd that proactively blocking Meta is somehow going to make the fediverse better. Or conversely, that Meta's federation is somehow going to make it worse.

But each to their own. That's the beauty of the fediverse after all.
@benroyce