nixCraft 🐧Mar 30, 2024
This is going to help scammers a lot. Imagine getting a call from your loved ones, and they explain they are in trouble and need immediate financial assistance. This is going to affect so many elderly and innocent people. OpenAI is developing these tools again from publicly scrapping of your voice samples.
Show threadAnthropyMar 30, 2024
@nixCraft I thought about that, but I do think it's going to sound off to the recipient, because you can't use it to have a conversation, you can only use it to create recordings. so it may work for a voicemail, but not for an actual phone conversation or something alike.
Show threadLuke Kanies

@anthropy @nixCraft people are already pulling this scam off now, without voice copying. But they have to stick to further relatives — grandchildren, especially.

This just makes the scam more widely usable.

And if you think people won’t fall for it, you don’t know enough about how scams work.

Mar 30, 2024 at 6:29pmWeb
Show threadAnthropyMar 30, 2024
@lkanies @nixCraft I never said you can't scam people even with stupid non-voice scams, I never said this isn't a problem, I just said you're not going to be able to have a conversation with this thing because it just generates samples and takes time doing so.
Show threadLuke KaniesMar 30, 2024

@anthropy @nixCraft there’s no link to the original article, but I assumed it would be connected to the chat functions, so it was generating real time audio.

Even without that, voicemail would become a scam vector (and already is for lots of other scams).

So sure, not being able to be real time reduces the problem for a while. But it’s still a huge increase in danger, without thinking at all about the consequences.

Show threadAnthropyMar 30, 2024

@lkanies @nixCraft I don't think it's generating realtime audio, at best it's a chat where you have to wait X seconds before you get a response, so not exactly realtime. and again, I never said there wasn't an "increase in danger", I literally said "I also thought this", I merely added that it isn't real time or usable for realtime applications.

this didn't have to be an offense/defense kind of conversation, and honestly I'm not planning to get into one either, so I'll leave it at this.

Show threadLuke KaniesMar 30, 2024
@anthropy @nixCraft 🤷‍♂️👍🏼🙏🏼