Chris HartjesSpeakers at a language-specific conference shitting on other language communities is a sign that their own community is not welcoming and inclusive. I was looking at learning Rust to expand my skill set only to see that recent speakers are punching down at other languages. Doesn’t give confidence that as I explore the language my requests for help would be taken seriously because I use a “wrong” language.
Max Almonte@grmpyprogrammer what I don't understand is how those comments were even relevant to the people present. Rust and PHP are designed with different goals (and usages) in mind. I would understand those comments if they were coming from people pushing another language for web development, but from the Rust community... It honestly feels like they just wanted to shit on PHP for no reason.
Ben Ramsey@maxalmonte14 @grmpyprogrammer This happened at a JavaScript conference I attended. The speaker made a joke at the expense of PHP, so I raised my hand and tried to ask as mildly and meekly as possible, “What’s wrong with PHP?”
That really caught him off guard, so he stumbled around a bit and said something about the PHP manual being horrible in the past “but it’s gotten a lot better.”
I didn’t say anything more.
@ramsey @grmpyprogrammer goes to show how little these people really know about the language and its community.
@maxalmonte14 @grmpyprogrammer It’s just used as a cheap shot to get a laugh, nothing more. They could make any other joke about anything else, and it would probably serve the same purpose.
nicksloan@ramsey @maxalmonte14 @grmpyprogrammer For any set of things that people have opinions about, there will arise a consensus about which one is the one to make fun of. Cleveland is a good example. This even applies to Beatles. I think a lot of times the derision is very loosely held. The trouble for PHP is that people may make decisions about it based on the ridicule and not any first hand experience.