return2ozmaBiden reacts to pro-Palestinian protesters: 'They have a point'
alternative_factorThe UN passed the resolution calling it genocide so I agree with that, I trust a democratic vote of the UN despite their inability to actually do anything compared to South Africa. I'm still going to vote Biden though because I know about project 2025 and know that we will probably get genocided in our own country if he loses. It sucks but that's how I feel.
CruxifuxWhat’s project 2025?
HACKthePRISONSa boogeyman
I just perused the Wikipedia page, doesn’t seem like a boogeyman to me. Considering it’s backed by the Heritage Foundation. It seems horrifying to be honest.
Don't worry. I'm sure they don't really mean to install Trump as the president for life, make LGBTQ+ illegal, instill Christianty as the state religion, deploy the military for law enforcement, etc, etc. Hitler didn't REALLY mean he was gonna kill millions of people!
I don't think they can pull it off. it's a ghost story.
Let me guess- if you are American you stopped hanging out with your right-wing neighbors/family? Because for some insane reason, I didn't. This is 100% what they actually believe. They really think that anything left of Trump is part of the deep state conspiracy, homeschool their kids, think that bringing back "god" in school/state will fix everything, that Trump will save the country, etc, etc.
If you are not American, fuck off. You have no idea how bad the right-wingers really have become
If you are not American, fuck off. You have no idea how bad the right-wingers really have become
you don't know anything about me
this whole comment is attacking me personally rather than refuting anything I said
Because you said nothing other than “Nuh uh”
You haven’t made any statements worth refuting, you’ve only given your unsubstantiated personal opinion.
that's not a reason to make personal attacks
You didn’t say anything of actual value comrade. Explain to me why you think something backed by the heritage foundation, which is a big money organization and not something to be taken lightly, holds no weight? I’m not American, but seeing this makes me worried for Americans. It seems like Republican takeover of a huge amount of power in the states.
The democrats are atrocious for leftist movements. This is not debatable. But this is death of the leftist movement in America shit as far as I can tell. It seems like a huge leap towards Christo-fascism if attainable. I don’t see it as something that should just be ignored on any level. Why do you feel that it is? Maybe you know something I don’t.
I don't think I have some special knowledge. the heritage foundation are impotent, and p2025 is like a child's letter to Santa. they will get some of it, but they'd be getting that whether they wrote the paper or no.
Saying The Heritage Foundation is impotent might be the most ignorant thing I’ve ever seen. The Heritage Foundation is basically running the judicial system in our country. Their strategy completely worked they control the Supreme Court and they control a lot of the federal courts in this Nation. They are an existential threat to democracy. Project 2025 is a road map. Anyone who can’t see that at this point is probably rooting for that road map.
the heritage foundation is a lot less scary to me than black rock, chase, meta, alphabet, and the actual fucking government (fisa courts, nsa spying, international spying agreements, criminalizing protests).
this is all shit that already threatens us. the heritage foundation didn't make this happen: america is fascist, and they are just cheerleaders.
You don’t think that they had anything to do with the half-century-long backslide into dominionist authoritarianism? They have playing the long game, and it’s happened because they had the patience to make it happen at a frog-boiling pace, and we only paid attention when they said the quiet parts out loud.
Who the hell do you think developed the Reagan doctrine? They’ve had a heavy hand in tons of policy making, both domestic and foreign, for as long as I’ve been alive. All those other groups you’ve mentioned are just bolstering their influence, helping to get their bidding done.
I must say I’m rather flabbergasted by this comment. You’re not worried about the Heritage Foundation. You are however worried about the people who fund the Heritage Foundation and the Endeavors the Heritage Foundation seeks to achieve?
The government doesn't fund the heritage foundation. Facebook doesn't find the heritage foundation. Google doesn't fund the heritage foundation. who is it that you think funds the heritage foundation?
I'm not worried about p2025, if that's what you mean.
Well that’s weird cuz Heritage Foundation is a big part of that. It’s the judicial arm.
Its not, but plenty of Lemmy accounts are running around with a vested interest of convincing one and all that Biden and Dump are the exact same candidate and not voting is the answer. Its why theyll spam anything and everything about the Gaza genocide to the front page while not so sneakily inserting comments like this or, “gEnOciDe JoE” in the middle of it all.
>Lemmy accounts are running around with a vested interest of convincing one and all that Biden and Dump are the exact same candidate
if this were true you could show one.
Well, you, for a start.
I have never said that
Go astroturf in hell
demanding evidence is not astroturfing.
^^^
Ill add return2ozma, linkerbaan, and tokenboomer off the top of my head. Each karmawhoring to keep themselves visible.
none of them have said that
Also nudding whos crawled out of the woodwork. And they have, but the bulk of their work is spamming only the news they want u to see.
Dude I post every day what the fuck are you talking about lol
Dude i dont follow u what the fuck are you talking about lol
But i always see u crop up for moments like this when someone calls out lemmy shills
As a citizen of the world, I am affected by American politics. Is this a foreign concept to you?
https://lemmy.world/search?q=shill&type=All&listingType=All&page=1&sort=New
i check this multiple times a day. and i get no recognition.
Yep, he’s one of the few accounts I recognize at this point. Same shit every time.
All these guys replying to me are. If u got to see my comment listing their names before it got pulled u could see if maybe u recognize those too. Highly recommend tagging them.
They’re the same candidate if you care about genocide and oil production lol. Pretty important things to a lot of people.
Agreed. One wants to let “stepping stone” Ukraine get genocided along with the queer folk in our own country while taking away our right to put who we want in power next time.
Trump is objectively a worse candidate. That doesn’t stop Biden from being a geriatric genocide enabler.
Maybe you guys shouldn’t get a next time if your only 2 options are genocide.
Maybe none of it really matters anyway, because of the coming collapse.
“Wahhh why is no one giving up like me wahhh!”
if they had said that it would be trivial to link.
Lol by sifting thru entire accounts and ignoring what i said about their shifting the public view towards where American adversaries want it? But u seem very keen on defending their entire post history… hmmm.
if your claim that they want to convince one and all that the two candidates are the exact same were true, you wouldn't need to do any meaningful sifting.
it's not true, though. the only time you will find anyone talking about them being the same are people (in bad faith) accusing others of having that position.
Keep ignoring the rest of what i said. But im getting the same usual suspect coming from nowhere replying. Its all always the same.
“Theyre all the same” finally got pushback, and now yall pretend like that was never here to discredit anyone bringing it up. If it didnt exist, it wouldnt be brought up.
>Keep ignoring the rest of what i said.
your petulance doesn't make your wild accusations any more relevant.
>“Theyre all the same” finally got pushback,
are you going to provide evidence anyone said that?
Did u miss the 3001 “trolley problem” posts circulating a month ago?
can you link what you're talking about?
I'll also point out that the trolley problem does distinguish between the two tracks. unless I miss one that didn't?
> If it didnt exist, it wouldnt be brought up.
people lie on the internet all the time.
>Each karmawhoring to keep themselves visible.
i don't think you understand how lemmy's vote system works.
>not voting is the answer
no one said that
Or maybe people have a legitimate moral concern when their country is aiding and abetting an ongoing genocide?
(Spoiler)
If that means they take (in)action that lets Donnie win a second term, they don’t
this is incoherent. i think it has snark poisoning.
Orange man is so bad that you’ll actively support a genocide, very enlightened, great job.
Thanks! “orange man bad /s” really takes me back to the days I was scrolling r/con for laughs
Congrats on making it to Lemmy
“Hurr durr, you should not vote Biden because he supports a genocide, thus electing another genocidal maniac that won’t stop the first genocide but will cause more genocides to happen. I am very smart”
Why is your country doing so much genocide?
And what is my country?
Why do you think I would entertain your bullshit instead of just blocking you lol.
Yep, run away like the little bitch you are.
The neoliberals here will have no problem adapting to life under fascism. It’s a tale as old as time.