Fedi.TipsMar 22, 2024

If you're a Fediverse admin, this is a plea for you to defederate threads.net

#Threads is part of Meta/Facebook, and their track record on moderation is as horrific as it is possible to be:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/06/rohingya-sue-facebook-myanmar-genocide-us-uk-legal-action-social-media-violence

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/ethiopia-facebook-algorithms-contributed-human-rights-abuses-against-tigrayans

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2022-02-20/facebook-accused-of-letting-activists-incite-ethnic-massacres-with-hate-and-misinformation-by-survivors-in-ethiopia/.

The victims of prejudice, violence and genocide cannot "block" attackers that were radicalised online. Victims of bigotry and hatred cannot opt out of being beaten up or murdered.

Please defederate Threads/Meta/Facebook 🙏

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Show threadJESSE JANOWIAK HAS MOVEDMar 22, 2024

@FediTips I’m a bit skeptical of this interpretation. Is the assumption that Threads will have worse moderation than your average Mastodon instance? If so, I find that difficult to believe.

Or is it a problem of scale — to many posts to reasonably moderate? In that case the argument seems to be that no fediverse instance should ever be that large. That’s a fair position that I’ve heard before, but it’s far from being a consensus position among fediverse and Mastodon users and admins.

Show threadJESSE JANOWIAK HAS MOVEDMar 23, 2024

@FediTips I got some really good feedback on this question, so thanks to everyone! In case anyone is still reading this, a clarification:

I do not trust Meta to do good moderation. But I also don’t trust most instances to do good moderation. The difference between Meta and any average neo libertarian instance admin is one of scale and visibility. If allowing Meta to federate will destroy the fediverse, maybe it was always doomed.

Show threadJonMar 25, 2024
That's one difference between Meta and an average neolibertarian instance admin. Other differences are that Meta has been more successful at helping authoritarian regimes take power than most instance admins, has a business model based on exploiting people's data non-consensually, a track record of breaking the law (including racial discrimination in ads) ... as well as involvement involvement multiple genocides, including Rohingya. Opinions differ on whether or not that's a reason for defederation, but the differences are very real.

In any case, I don't think Meta's federating will destroy the fediverse, more likely we'll see a schism of some kind ... if so, it'll be for the best.

@wonkeythemonkey @FediTips
Show threadundead enby of the apocalypseMar 25, 2024
@jdp23 @wonkeythemonkey @FediTips Meta also has far more power than the average tech bro instance admin, and already hold some of the largest social networks and messenger apps captive, so the danger of an embrace-extend-extinguish strategy being used to absorb/kill off the fediverse is very much there.
Show threadJon
Yep. Although I think their strategy is more likely to be embrace-extend-exploit -- decentralized surveillance capitalism FTW!

https://privacy.thenexus.today/embrace-extend-and-exploit/

@enby_of_the_apocalypse @wonkeythemonkey @FediTips
Embrace, Extend, and Exploit: Meta's plan for ActivityPub, Mastodon and the Fediverse

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Mar 25, 2024 at 6:12pmWeb