#FediPact Mar 20, 2024

i think the most annoying thing about this whole discourse is that people refuse to judge threads by the standard of any other fedi instance

like if a mastodon instance got set up and federated right now and it allowed the shit threads allowed it'd be widely defederated IMMEDIATELY

there are accounts literally CALLING FOR THE DEATHS OF QUEER PEOPLE on there right fucking now

the only reason people are even willing to give them a chance is because it's a big corpo, but that should only be reason to give them less of one lmao. especially considering meta's history in particular

don't let them lower the bar for moderation standards here

#FediPact #meta #threads #FediForum

Show threadch0ccyra1n is leaving fedi soonMar 20, 2024

@FediPact I'd argue that most instances end up excusing a ton of really terrible things if the instance is large enough. For example, mastodon.social has a lot of awfulness going on and is still poorly moderated. That doesn't in-practice lead to many defederations however.

That being said, I think going after Threads and other corpo-run instances is more important anyways because unlike .social, Facebook actively profits from such behavior and thus there's little to no motivation to do anything about it on their end.

Show threadFediThing Mar 20, 2024

@ch0ccyra1n @FediPact

Also, mastodon.social hasn't been cited in multiple reports on human rights violations, genocide etc.

It should be a no-brainer to block threads.net

Show threadch0ccyra1n is leaving fedi soonMar 20, 2024
@FediThing @FediPact that's true, and certainly a good reason to focus on Threads instead. I just think there's a double standard in how many fediverse instances moderate against big vs small instances, and as the admin of a small instance myself it's quite disheartening although I understand why that's the case and I'm not inmune from it either.
Show threadFediThing Mar 20, 2024

@ch0ccyra1n @FediPact

I agree, there is more pressure on admins to federate with larger servers if that's where people want to connect to.

That's another reason to avoid large servers, because they put admins under pressure to allow bad stuff.

Show threadch0ccyra1n is leaving fedi soonMar 20, 2024
@FediThing @FediPact I suppose a band-aid fix (and what I've done for many large instances) is basically playing a game of whack-a-mole trying to suspend individual users of them who are particularly nasty, such as LALegault, an especially vocal antisemite and transmisogynist on newsie. Unfortunately there's also quite a few decent accounts on that instance so I'm left scrambling to suspend individual users like her.
Show threadFediThing 

@ch0ccyra1n @FediPact

Yeah, it's not fair to force small instance mods to do the work that large instance mods cannot cope with. Seems very irresponsible of massive instances to build themselves up beyond their ability to moderate their own members.

It's so much better to block problematic accounts at source, avoids duplication of blocks elsewhere.

Mar 20, 2024 at 6:37pmWeb