I still think the most under-reported, most holy shit tech story of the last 5+ years is how good e-bikes have gotten and how much more affordable a decent e-bike has become.

E-cars and trucks are a nice change but mostly meh. E-bikes, tho? They are magic.

They deserve subsidies and way more press attention.

@ryansingel

yes, but the lack of parts standards is pretty awful right now

good luck finding parts when something wears out in 5-10 years

https://youtu.be/PN505EbwWT0?si=x8r8wSU8nLKMJbDl

We Have A Huge Problem With Ebikes....

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@joriki @ryansingel I had an email exchange with Larry vs. Harry (Bullitt) about why they use Shimano motors and offer no Bosch ones. Turns out the main reason is that Shimano is committed to keeping the mount points constant, but Bosch mount points have sometimes changed between motor generations, so newer motors cannot always be mounted into earlier frames.
@szakib @joriki @ryansingel I had no idea about this, thanks for sharing that detail!
@bluejekyll @szakib @joriki @ryansingel I didn’t know that, either (and I’m on my second Bullitt). I think the Shimano motors are better anyway. 😄

@marcprecipice @bluejekyll @szakib @joriki @ryansingel

I hope / assume all of this will become a commodity with imperfect but widely adopted standards. I'd love to see a proliferation of ebike builders like desktop PCs in the 90s. A few big builders but all kinds of local businesses building custom rigs for people. I want people to be able to upgrade and replace parts keeping the parts that are still fine.

@ian @marcprecipice @bluejekyll @szakib @joriki @ryansingel We need a major brand to play IBM, so everyone else can play the "100% X compatible" card and we get a proper standard out of it!
@AGTMADCAT @ian @marcprecipice @bluejekyll @szakib @joriki @ryansingel I feel like in the bike world that brand is basically Shimano, and Bosch as the early leader maybe didn’t get the memo.

@bluejekyll @AGTMADCAT @ian @marcprecipice @szakib @joriki @ryansingel This feels like diversity/culture fail 101. Bosch historically did not do bikes, probably does not even know that the parts tend interchangeable (can swap in modern pedals, seat, stem, hubs, wheels, saddle, on a bike made in the 1940s), so why would they bother making replacement and upgrade a priority?

Unlike cars, it's pretty easy to keep a bicycle on the road indefinitely.

@dr2chase

I worked for Rohloff ( https://rohloff.de ) until the end of Dec23. Believe me, the people at Bosch know. Because we told them more than once.

Willkommen - Rohloff AG

@AgentSnark you told them, doesn't mean they understood. And awesome former job, at least from the outside, I hope it was as good on the inside. I own one of those hubs, very happy about the splined sprocklet carrier upgrade, too.