I still think the most under-reported, most holy shit tech story of the last 5+ years is how good e-bikes have gotten and how much more affordable a decent e-bike has become.

E-cars and trucks are a nice change but mostly meh. E-bikes, tho? They are magic.

They deserve subsidies and way more press attention.

@ryansingel

yes, but the lack of parts standards is pretty awful right now

good luck finding parts when something wears out in 5-10 years

https://youtu.be/PN505EbwWT0?si=x8r8wSU8nLKMJbDl

We Have A Huge Problem With Ebikes....

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@joriki @ryansingel I had an email exchange with Larry vs. Harry (Bullitt) about why they use Shimano motors and offer no Bosch ones. Turns out the main reason is that Shimano is committed to keeping the mount points constant, but Bosch mount points have sometimes changed between motor generations, so newer motors cannot always be mounted into earlier frames.
@szakib @joriki @ryansingel I had no idea about this, thanks for sharing that detail!
@bluejekyll @szakib @joriki @ryansingel I didn’t know that, either (and I’m on my second Bullitt). I think the Shimano motors are better anyway. 😄
@marcprecipice @bluejekyll @joriki @ryansingel I originally asked this question because my bike mechanic friend's informal stats say that the Bosch motors have better build quality and they are more reliable.
But even with more frequent repairs, I expect the Shimanos to be more cost-efficient in terms of total cost of ownership over the years. (Does anyone have data on this?)
What is it that you like more about the Shimanos?
@szakib @marcprecipice @bluejekyll @joriki @ryansingel One big problem I have with the Bosch motor in my Tern is only dealers have access to the software for maintenance. Right to repair legislation may change that.
@johne @marcprecipice @bluejekyll @joriki @ryansingel what does Shimano let you do/access as a consumer?