Why do they still dye the rivers green for St. Patricks Day? It's not a good look for downtown Chicago.

Why do they still dye the rivers green for St. Patricks Day?... #fuck_chicago #upgrayedd

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Why do they still dye the rivers green for St. Patricks Day? It's not a good look for downtown Chicago. - Ask Lemmy - kbin.run

I just think the novelty of these type of displays was up in the 90s, It's time for an upgrayedd. I propose leprechauns flying up and down the river wearing water jet packs, shooting people with their Chicago-style hot dog cannons would be more with the times. What's your idea?

The crowds it attracts today still are huge. What do you mean the novelty has worn down? I have lived in the area since 2012 and I still haven’t gone down to see this because I don’t want to deal with the crowds.

On another note, I guess I’ll be there in a jiffy if they shot me with an Italian beef - wet (not from the river) and lots of giardiniera.

Yes, Italian beef for St. Patricks day. Hahaha.

In all honesty I wouldn’t blame you. Or Chicago, they are super delish.

Haha! Yeah, I read the post before coffee that they were shooting Chicago-style hot dogs so I was countering with Italian Beef. 🤣

I should probably wake up more before commenting.

With the money they save in river dye they could paint the riverside with Italian beef, can you just imagine it?

Italian beef - wet

Ahh yes! The only correct way to eat ur Italian beef.

Straight out of the river!
Fuck yeah. What’s your preferred place to get from? Johnnies is the one I’m most familiar with and enjoy.
Johnnies all the way.
Cheesy, no peppers for me. But if they wrapped them in paper and shot them with a T-shirt gun, I guarantee it would be popular.
This is really making me miss home. Maybe I’ll move back in a few years.

leprechauns flying up and down the river wearing water jet packs, shooting people with their Chicago-style hot dog cannons

I mean, they’re not mutually-exclusive. You can do both.

I don’t remember the comedian, but I remember the joke:

“If they can dye it green for St. Patrick’s Day, why can’t they dye it blue the other days of the year?”

Isn’t that from the fugitive?
Maybe, I don’t remember. I thought it was from a comedian, but I could be wrong. (Memory isn’t what it used to be. 🤷🏻)
Yes. I was thinking of that line from the movie when I read the OP.
I’ve seen apartment complexes that have little fake ponds and rivers flowing throughout the grounds that are dyed blue. It doesn’t look good. It looks like the water with that cheap toilet bowl cleaner in it.
How is it not a good look?
Well I live near an actual toxic river that has been cleaning up lately. I just think dying it green makes it look gross, maybe it's time to projection map it green or give everyone green tinted glasses so then everything is green and you don't have to make the river an oooz color.
Isn’t the dye something non toxic though?

There are water-tracing dyes out there that are designed specifically to be able to dump into water to see where it’s going – like, to find leaks and such – and I bet that they’re using one of those.

IIRC you can normally get red or green.

googles

www.amazon.com/water-tracing-dye/s?k=water+tracin…

LPT: if you need this for home purposes, for example to find where your toilet tank is leaking, kool-aid works really well.
Lol sounds like a you problem. It’s all biodegradable and good fun. It actually does look cool. Long time Chicagoans and new visitors still like it. Sorry you don’t.
Yeah I honestly always thought it looked really cool too
Ah yes, a perfectly safe dye… that has warning labels on it indicating it’s a bad idea to use a lot and it’s toxic when concentrated. Yep, pefectly safe!

Anything is toxic when concentrated enough. Fish food kills fish at high volumes; fish kill humans at high volumes.

What’s crazy is there are really good ways to dilute things–namely using a high volume of water…

Hell, water and oxygen are toxic. The dose makes the poison.
Upgrayedds not gonna be too happy about this.
Screw little rivers. Dye the oceans green.
I want XKCD to do the math on this one
352 x 10^(18) gallons according to the US national parks service.
Ocean (U.S. National Park Service)

Fun fact: It’s actually beneficial that they do this because they use Gatorade which has electrolytes and as we all know, that’s what the plants need.

A recent article asking the same thing on Tampa Bay's activities

While there doesn't seem to be obvious red flags of harm, something doesn't feel right to me about dumping chemicals into the environment that eventually break down. The article says the company making this particular dye warns about it in higher quantities or letting it become concentrated in places downstream, and wearing protective equipment when handling the larger amounts. How much of that is only legalize to protect from misuse vs. actual tested issues?

Is it safe to dye the Hillsborough River green? Here’s what we know.

A safety sheet from the company that provides the dye to the City of Tampa says large spills can have a harmful effect on the environment.

Tampa Bay Times
I just think that color green is ugly and looks like industrial waste
it’s how you make more ninja turtles though, and lord knows we need them now more than ever!

Chicago is the only city other than New York that makes enough pizza to support growing teenager mutant ninja turtles.

But New York probably has more sewer rats trained in karate.

The deadly chemical known as Dihydrogen Monoxide absolutely fills that river, you know? Might want to keep your distance.
What about all the piss and poop in the river? Fish can’t be trained to use a bathroom, so they just defecate in the water, 24x7. Gross!
It’s wasteful and a bad look, but many things are only hazardous in high concentrations. Even a tanker full of milk getting dumped into a small lake could cause mass die offs. The PPE is probably more about preventing it from being breathed in or getting in their mouths. You can check out the SDS here.
Would any animals in the water not breathe it in or get it in their mouth?
That was hard to read, and amounts to “It’s safe and used responsibly but people are scared of color green so it must be bad.”
Release the Lepredrones!
better yet, make a green dye outta algae, so that it actually does something other than look interesting. And knowing how rivers in cities work, it’s polluted enough that algae will die off withing a few days tops, so it’d be efficient

oceanservice.noaa.gov/hazards/…/great-lakes.html

TL;DR: Algae would almost certainly be worse than whatever they are using.

Great Lakes: Harmful Algal Blooms

Blooms of the blue-green algae, or cyanobacteria blooms, is a frequent occurence in the Great Lakes (particularly in Lake Erie), causing impacts to human and ecosystem health, including fish kills and discolored or foul-smelling water. NOAA provides forecasts of cyanobacteria blooms for Lake Erie from July to October. Some cyanobacteria blooms can grow rapidly and produce toxins that cause harm to animal life and humans so scientists describe them as harmful algal blooms (HABs).

It’d be bad. Real bad. An algae bloom of massive proportions. It has one huge issue.

Enough algae to make the rivers run green will use up enough oxygen at night to kill off fish and other vertebrates.

Now you have a river full of dead organisms, so they start decomposing thanks to microbes. You know what many types of bacteria love? Oxygen. So they start using up oxygen, multiplying all the while. Night hits and the algae need to use oxygen, but a bunch die because there’s not enough. Now the river is full of literally hundreds, maybe thousands of tons of decomposing matter. The river largely goes anoxic (meaning there’s no oxygen) so things start dying left and right. A bunch of those bacteria can live with and without oxygen, so they use up what they can and keep on chugging without.

Now we’ve moved from aerobic respiration to anaerobic. You know what the primary byproducts of anaerobic respiration are? Organic acids and alcohols, which smell. The river begins to smell like an infected wound. It’s no longer green but deep, murky brown from the suspension of decomposing organisms. This continues until the river flushes everything out, but it kills what’s downstream as it continues until it hits the ocean, where it likely continues to kill everything in the vicinity until it becomes dilute enough.

oh damn. more colossal waves of death is the last thing they need. thanks for setting it straight
I like that you’re thinking of alternatives, though! Don’t ever lose that, it’s less common than you might think.

Using green algae with what’s happening in Lough Neagh would be a bad look.

But perfectly on brand for the plastic Paddy’s.

The people who make the green dye are probably perpetuating it because it means an influx in dye sales.

All this strikes up another good question, why don’t they dye it gold for Oktoberfest, red for Dyngus Day, etc.? It seems incredibly overshadowing one culture in a multicultural city has outright terraforming privileges while others get a couple of tiny cornerstreets to call home once a year.

More people should celebrate dyngus day
I used to go to the national parades for them because they’re nearby. It’s very nice.
Because tracing dye is originally green. It’s just a happy coincidence that it ended up working for Saint Patricks day.
It’s the hotdog cannons that really made this fly for me.
Head over to the unpopular opinion group, you’re not asking a question, you’re stating an opinion.
I'm asking you why they do this when it looks like crap? People actually like seeing a neon green river? What is wrong with those people? See, 3 valid questions.

People have different tastes.

Can you not fathom this idea?

Yeah, if I see a green river I think pollution.

Why they do this? = Question.

Why the do this when it looks like crap? = opinion. Regardless of how it’s presented.