Zach Leatherman
thurti@zachleat When did this actually start, that developers here have become so passive aggressive and condescending towards the work of other developers. I thought it was just a twitter thing.
@thurti I think there is a lot to unpack here and I don’t go into making this joke without self awareness of what’s happening.
But I would ask: when did tooling tribalism become so that we can’t critique code? That a mere lighthearted humorous critique of code is a personal attack?
Finally the thing I always try to evaluate before making a joke like this: is it punching down? And no, I would very strongly argue that it is not.
Henry Bley-Vroman@thurti thanks for saying this. @zachleat given the last month's widely read anti-Tw articles I see only "this tool is bad". What's the critique? I see an inexpert CSS author, unnecessary height styles, and not using Prettier. But I'm confident the joke isn't "this person is passionate but a junior".
@olets @zachleat some valid points of criticism imo https://nuejs.org/blog/tailwind-misinformation-engine/
@thurti @zachleat Tailwind bashing is interesting. As an experienced CSS author Tailwind fan it's easy to spot which anti takes are likely written by people who haven't spent time with it, because I and everyone I know who's gotten to know it was a hater first, had the same opinions, and found they didn't hold up (some are still anti for other reasons) 1/2
@thurti @zachleat Good that not everyone uses/likes it. My Tailwind conversion changed how I see takes like that, about Tailwind or other tools. Dragging tells people who don't have personal experience with it to look down on people who like it, and sets them up for seeing "people who like this are wrong" daily. In retrospect I've uncritically picked up plenty of dev opinions that way, and probably passed them on to juniors. Maybe Drupal is good 🤯 2/2