Looking for new moderators - community locked for now

https://lemmy.world/post/13140092

Looking for new moderators - community locked for now - Lemmy.World

Hello everyone, due to the large volume of recent troll posts and comments, as well as the absence of community moderators, we have decided to lock down this community until we have found some new moderators. If you wish to apply as a moderator, you’ll need to have an actively used Lemmy account, and you will need to use a Lemmy.World account for moderation, as you will otherwise not reliably receive reports in the community. If you’d like to help with moderation, but you don’t currently have a Lemmy.World account, you’re welcome to apply anyway, as long as you’re willing to create a Lemmy.World account to take care of moderation and reviewing reports if we decide to select you as moderator. We also ask that you provide a short description of how you want to see the community in the future. This does not have to be in detail, but it’d still be great if you could describe e.g. rule changes you’d be looking at. Please also take a look at our Community Moderation Guidelines [https://lemmy.world/post/424735] and keep in mind that the Lemmy.World ToS [https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/] apply to this community. You can apply by using one of the following options: - leave a comment here saying that you’d be willing to moderate - send us an email to info @ our instance domain - send me a pm on Lemmy with your application If you’re not looking to apply as a moderator for this community, you might still be able to help shape this community by describing how you would imagine this community in the future. You can also take a look at https://lemmy.world/post/12568610 [https://lemmy.world/post/12568610], which already has several comments discussing the current state of this community.

Hopefully the new mods remove popular opinions.
Maybe learn to talk like you are the ones who need help ? Modding is not a holy position its a thankless job you are not doing them a favor by making them a mod they are doing you a favor so atleast be polite and not act like your giving a job offer or something .
What’s wrong with this post? Asking for some details about someone that wants to mod one of the bigger communities is a good idea, right?
Nothing wrong with having standards, not sure what’s up his butt.
Nothing is up mine but i guess some of the admins have theirs in yours ?
That’s a bold move Cotton
Not in the mood for further argument as some of us have lives.
I hope yours get better, you seem to be having a bad time. Not everyone is out to get you, you know.
I too wish you would have one so you still aren’t trying to fight with internet randos for human interaction . Maybe get an AI girlfriend that things seem to be built for people like you.

Sigh, I’m not the one fighting, also wasn’t the one starting any sort of argument. You’re being belligerent from the moment you started answering on this post, thinking you can interpret people wills and intents with absolute.

Go take a breather, realize that not everyone is out to get you, and that you don’t have to turn every disagreement into a fight.

You litterally replied to me after i told you lets stop .

Not in the mood for further argument

Oh yes you are!

as some of us have lives.

Oh no you dont!

Panto season is normally around christmas, but i can see the appeal in spring.

Post is completely fine, clear and reasonable. You can’t please everyone 🤷‍♀️

Ok, here is your Lemmy Silver for your good effort on your thankless job

Note: We try to help every Moderator, if he just comes up to us and asks. We try to communicate a lot with mods and users. But we are not perfect. And we just wanted to be this time more… to the point and letting everyone know, as a mod you still need to follow LW’s TOS and Mod Guideline. As we got some… not good moderators for the some of our last “Looking for moderators” post in a another community.

No need to pay me silver as i have said i don’t mod and probably never will this culture is worse than ceo’s and janitors maybe respect your mods better ?
Who has even asked for your judgement?
No one this is a public foeum where everyone can put their opinions not your little dollhouse where your king . Now move on.
Now THIS is the kind of unpopular opinion this community needs!

I’m willing to volunteer as a moderator in this community, using my existing lemmy.world account [email protected]. Currently ~CET based

Primarily I’ll be enforcing the current rules in the sidebar, with the intention of the community returning to a home for unpopular opinions, rather than troll or “bait” posts with the sole intent of upsetting others…

First thing I’d want to do is a meta poll what others’ view an “unpopular opinion” as. Mine would be something along the lines of “an opinion that is generally accepted in western cultures, but may not necessarily held by a majority”, however it would be ideal to get more perspectives and a general discussion going on that, as this would shape moderation moving forward.

Only rule change I’d consider presently would be the discretionary removal of controversial posts focused on sensitive geopolitical issues or political figures - with community interactions on instances of these posts being the basis

“Primarily I’ll be enforcing the current rules in the sidebar, with the intention of the community returning to a home for unpopular opinions, rather than troll or “bait” posts with the sole intent of upsetting others…”

All this ignores a few pesky facts:

-What’s “deliberately upsetting to others” is highly subjective. For every one person who fell to the floor in a tearful heap after hearing Shane Gillis’s utter the joke that resulted in him being forced off of SNL, there are 80 more people who comprehended what he was doing, and WEREN’T upset

-In the past few years, “trolling” has been redefined to mean “Anything I don’t agree with”

-The idea that words we read on a website on their own upset us is patently unempirical. Our own thoughts and beliefs dictate how worked up, if at all, we become over what we read

-A forum for Unpopular Opinions, by definition, is going to be one where sledgehammers are taken to sacred cows and santified icons. This is easily misconstrued as “baiting” and “trolling”, when we start embracing increasingly elastic definitions of these terms

I’d be willing. I’m already modding the community locally on my instance, so might as well throw my hat in. I would need to make a LW account for the purpose, but that’s not an obstacle.

We also ask that you provide a short description of how you want to see the community in the future

Well, I think the rules are pretty solid as-is, though I would suggest two addition:

  • Submissions should be unpopular opinions in general, not just on Lemmy.
  • You shoudl provide a justification / rationale along with your submission
THANK YOU good heavens.
Nazi trolls don’t require our running to the assistant principal in tears. All one need do is A). Ignore them, or B). Lampoon their ignorant and prejudiced sentiments

Sorry to read there has been trouble on this particular forum. My 5 cents:

You aren’t likely to keep moderators around, as long as we insist on emulating the sort of nonsense that’s been running rampant on university campuses for an unforgivably long time/ was lampooned in the first scene of “American Fiction”… That is to say, taking increasingly elastic definitions of “trolling”, and capitulating to the frivolous grievances of real-life equivalents to Titania McGrath

Be very specific and explicit about what content is forbidden, with instructions such as “No posting links to kiddie porn or footage of ISIS beheadings. No threatening anyone to go to someone else’s house and dismember them with a chainsaw”, instead of hiding behind deliberately vague euphemisms and weasel phrases, such as “No targeting marginalized populations for hate”

Also, issue a public statement such as “Those who are among the 13% of America who revel in being offended, and expect the rest of us mere mortals to keep our speech G-rated are well advised to go watch The Disney Channel, rather than visiting lemmy. We’re a forum for aspiring adults who are enthusiasts for inquiry and the robust exchange of ideas”

found the account that wants to target marginalized populations with hate
“Marginalized populations” can mean anything, or nothing. It’s less less than useful as a guideline, especially when compared to more specific instructions such as “Resist the urge to refer to your fellow board members here at lemmy with slurs. If you disagree with a thought or belief they’ve expressed, quote them, then say why you disagree with them”

Hi,

thanks for your points, if you think a ban of yours or your friends was unjustified, please tell him to make a unbann request, because if someone just isnt making the effort of making a unban request, then we dont see any regret, or not even a try to tell us that we were wrong.

If it was a community ban you are talking about, then talk to the mods.

If you are just angry because you got site banned ( because your account is just 3 days old and is immediatly got into a fight in the news community ), this is just the way of getting another one.

I would even say, some of your comments there are remove worthy, but we let the moderators choose if they want the message gone or not.

We are only here for urgent or illegal stuff. And that there is always a community moderated

“I would even say, some of your comments there are remove worthy…”

Fair inference: You also found Nanette ground-breaking and revolutionary, but believed yourself to be “traumatized” after seeing one of Dina Hashem’s roast battles on YouTube

“Context” is indeed key… Moderating becomes extremely simple, when we remember that words written on the internet aren’t living organisms with fangs and claws that can leap off the screen to gore the humans who are reading them. When we encounter thoughts online which we find objectionable, all we have to do is find something else on lemmy to read

self-reporting that you neither know nor care about the lemmy.world TOS. charming.

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    And as I said: Whover had their underroos in a twist over the thoughts I’d expressed could not provide a specific example of me “attacking a group”, “bullying”, “perpetrating transphobia”, etc etc. Here in '24, The US has regressed back to Salem during the era ofvThe Witch Trials… An accuser need not be explicit in regards to how someone slighted them, nor do they need to provide evidence. The allegation alone is enough to secure a conviction

    [email protected] rule 1 is as follows:

    Be civil: Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

    I’m the one that banned you, after numerous complaints about a large amount of your comments were in violation of this rule for multiple reasons.

    And yet you didn’t provide one specific example of my “not attacking the argument”, “being uncivil”, etc etc. When we start perpetuating the sort of nonsense Lukianoff&,Haidt have documented in The Coddling Of The American Mind, EVERYTHING except the letter “A” and the word “The” gets misconstrued as “trolling” and “a personal attack”
    If you are unsure of the cause, I don’t know what to say. Your messages are preserved in the modlogs for the world to see. They were fairly blatant.

    Have you considered a career in academia, serving as the coordinator of Yale’s bias response team? I’m not even being facetious when observing that you’ve already mastered the rote response those folks reguritate, whenever one of the few hundred students who’ve now been sanctioned or expelled for “being problematic” asks “Who did I harm?”

    “You know what you did. We don’t have to provide details”

    I presume you’re also the one who sent me one message which read “I understand the reference to an old Bond movie, but that’s inappropriate here”, and another which read “Was it necessary to use a misogynistic analogy?”

    In regards to the former: lemmy isn’t a class filled with kids in Pre-K, last anyone heard. Not sure why “inappropriateness” is even a consideration, in an era where Sydney Sweeney has become The It Girl of The 2020s, by relentlessly getting naked in movies, and posing in extremely skimpy lingerie when she’s not acting. Let’s not pretend that we’re more fragile than fine china

    In regards to the second accusation: I have no idea what you’re referring to. If you think an analogy I made was “misogynistic”, do quote what I apparently wrote, and what leads you to think it was misogynistic

    Those weren’t me. I never direct messaged you

    Awoke this morning and discovered that a comment I left in the Lemmy Shitpost forum(Once again, the offended party doesn’t specify which post they’ve deleted)was expunged, and I quote the message directly “for the following reason: Weird”

    The censor and I are in something approaching agreement here: It is really fucking weird to A). Send someone a message like that and expect them to know what you’re referring to, and B). Believe that this is a justifiable reason to delete a comment to begin with

    I wish you all godspeed in keeping mods on “staff”, so long as lemmy’s leadership continues to behave in such an unforgivably moronic fashion

    Ok banned him for ban evasion.
    Here’s the aforementioned scene from American Fiction youtu.be/4UkZRJeg9Ls?si=Trf64XtHXKVNk7vD A forum for Unpopular Opinions isn’t likely to succeed, when it’s moderators are cut from the same mold as that chick who runs to the dean, after her professor refuses to sanitize the language of Flannery O’Connor
    American Fiction - N-word opening scene

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    I’d be willing to moderate. I am currently a moderator of [email protected], as well as 2 other smaller communities.

    I’d like to see this community work as intended. Unpopular opinions that are valid are liked more, while common/popular opinions aren’t. This will hopefully generate more discourse. Rules would mostly stay the same, with the expansion of rule 1 to include rule 1 that we have in [email protected], as well as adding “no self-promotion” to rule 3.