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MicroWave Mar 13, 2024

Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England says

https://lemmy.world/post/13067428

Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers, NHS England says - Lemmy.World

Trans youth will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers at NHS England gender identity clinics in a new “blow” to gender-affirming healthcare. Puberty blockers are a type of medicine that prevent puberty from starting by blocking the hormones – like testosterone and oestrogen – that lead to puberty-related changes in the body. In the case of trans youth, this can delay unwanted physical changes like menstruation, breast growth, voice changes or facial hair growth. On Tuesday (12 March), NHS England confirmed the medicine, which has been described as “life-saving” medical care for trans youth, will only be available to young people as part of clinical research trials. The government described the move as a “landmark decision”, Sky News reported. It believed such a move is in the “best interests of the child”.

Th4tGuyII Mar 13, 2024

God damn Tories. What do they know about “best interests of the child” that a doctor doesn't already know? Less than nothing is the answer.

If a young person is suffering from gender dysmorphia to the point of considering gender affirmation procedures, then I think it'd be in their best interest to not exacerbate that condition by delaying the onset of puberty via puberty blockers until they're at the age where that can legally consent to such procedures.

Even if they eventually decide not to undergo those procedures, all you habr to do is take them off the blockers and they'd undergo puberty as normal. There's not all that much downside for an awful lot of upside for those in need.

OneLemmyMan Mar 13, 2024

seen doctors force sex change to children that lead to the child killing themselves in adulthood. Doctors are just people and people are all the same

maniclucky Mar 13, 2024

Bullshit. Source or it didn’t happen.

Neuromancer Mar 13, 2024

Reimer twins. It’s a well documented case. I suspect that is the case they are referencing.

maniclucky Mar 13, 2024

One case in the 60s/70s? That’s bad evidence. I assume you are clarifying and not supporting the person above.

Neuromancer Mar 13, 2024

Why don’t you calm down and not be hostile.

You asked for a case. I gave you as well known case.

If you had read the case, it was common practice and that is the study that ended it.

Disinformation merits hostility. I’ll yield when I’m wrong.

Because this case ended it, it is no longer true that doctors force transitioning, thus proving my assertion that the person above is full of shit. Show me a relevant case and I’ll be happy to change my mind. Some case in which a doctor forced transitioning and was not prosecuted or sued over it within the last decade. I’m flexible on the date.

Neuromancer Mar 13, 2024

If you had read the case, which you haven’t. You would have learned this was a common practice.

You keep moving the goalpost. I was just responding to your inaccurate statement.

maniclucky Mar 13, 2024

Was. It was common practice. It is not relevant because the person above asserted that it is currently common practice. My goalposts are stationary and your evidence only provides historical context.

Neuromancer Mar 13, 2024

I never saw him say current. If missed where he said current, my apologizes. When I look at his statement, I still don’t see it.

maniclucky Mar 13, 2024

Context clues and elementary understanding of language. They stated, prior to mod removal, that they had seen doctors force transitioning. Present tense. This would imply that the person was alive in the 60s/70s (reasonable, though Lemmy’s demographics make that unusual). The more likely, and unprovable on the internet, truth is that the person is regurgitating misinformation.

A quote from someone that quoted the person (incompletely it seems): “seen doctors force sex change to children that lead to the child killing themselves in adulthood”.

This also does not address the inherent misleading portion of it, which is the thing that merits the outrage: cases from half a century ago are not a basis on which to inform people of wrongdoing in modern healthcare. Granted, I didn’t explicitly state that as a goal from the outset, but we’re cuddling up next to bad faith to assert that as unreasonable.

Neuromancer Mar 13, 2024

It’s possible they did based on age.

If they are talking about currently, I would call BS just like you.

maniclucky Mar 13, 2024

That if smells of capitulation without agreement, but thank you in any case. I hope you have a nice day.

Neuromancer Mar 13, 2024

I think we are more in agreement than disagreement. Either you read too much into it or I didn’t read enough into it. Either way we both agree it isn’t a current issue.

maniclucky Mar 13, 2024

That’s fair and I would agree, and further guess that I’m reading too far.