Every time I do a Wayland or Xorg poll, the amount of people using Wayland keeps increasing, there's absolutely still a ton of X11 users but as distros stop shipping Xorg out of the box over the coming years I do wonder how many strict holdouts there really are, and how many are just using Xorg because that's what there distro provides.
@BrodieOnLinux I’m still stuck with X11 on my desktop since most of the software I use would be running in Xwayland, like VirtualBox which is unusably buggy in Xwayland. I would use QEMU but all the GUI frontends for it *suck*.
@distrohopper39b What's wrong with it, I've never experience issues with virtualbox
@BrodieOnLinux @distrohopper39b On wayland VirtualBox mostly works fine, unless you need manual mouse capturing (which I sometimes do for old OSes or various bits of programming/testing I have done). Manual mouse capturing causes the entire VirtualBox window to be unresponsive to mouse input until it’s closed and reopened since the mouse doesn’t correctly lock to the window. This is probably a bug related to both VBox and Xwayland

@distrohopper39b @BrodieOnLinux For simplifying QEMU, have you looked at:

* quickemu by wimpy
* quickgui by markxjohnson + ymuary (a GUI front end to quickemu)

They really help make quick work of QEMU deployment.

https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu

https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickgui

GitHub - quickemu-project/quickemu: Quickly create and run optimised Windows, macOS and Linux virtual machines

Quickly create and run optimised Windows, macOS and Linux virtual machines - quickemu-project/quickemu

GitHub
@ktnjared @distrohopper39b @BrodieOnLinux quickgui doesn’t support any custom oses and quickemu doesn’t support alternative (non-kvm) archs from what i can tell, so its not really usable for what i want to use it for

@distrohopper39b @BrodieOnLinux If that’s the case, I would strongly urge you to learn the CLI QEMU commands. It’s worth the effort and performance gains over VirtualBox alone.

The screenshot is my run script for my PA-RISC HP-UX 11 VM for example. Is not difficult, but can be tedious. But one you get a grip on things, it’s easy to cobble scripts together in short time.

@ktnjared oh i know the command line but it's just a pain to set up and use all the time. i could try to write my own gui frontend (which would incidentally make me very good at the qemu cli)