MambabasaGOG basically acknowledges piracy in a meme
ShadowCathow is this acknowledging piracy ?
Everything nowadays that attempts to give back a little autonomy or freedom to the user is called piracy.
As long as an app could theoretically be used for piracy, even if it was made to circumvent toxic behavior of users’ bought and paid for products, then it must be properly labelled as piracy and taken down.
I’ll better stop before this becomes a rant.
I guess they don’t realize GOG is DRM free as part of their business model?
Probably because they think DRM=anti pirate and not “You don’t actually own this”
Selling only DRM-free games has always be GOG’s whole thing (well, that and selling oldies compatible with modern OS), it’s weird that this meme specifically would be considered “aknowledging piracy”
Like, maybe if the final bit was saying the friends without accounts did like it there might be something there, but simply acknowledging DRM free I'm not seeing it
To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)
My friend, I regret to inform you that you are misunderstanding the meme
Yeah that seems like a bit of a stretch. That meme read to me like “Oh, you’re having problems with the DRM? I don’t have that problem,” not “Hey guys, here’s the GOG installer for X game.”
Otherwise, why would the other people in the group chat not like the vibe?
NordernI hate it when people share software with me. Really brings down the whole group chat.
It’s because the original image macro that this is based on was about piracy, saying something along the lines of “I bring a certain ‘just torrent it’ vibe to the conversion that the riaa just doesn’t like.”
Their reuse of the macro is indirectly an answer or a continuation of it that can be seen as acknowledging the original message.
Good guy GOG wants you to actually own your own games, forever.
Something Burger 🍔Then why do their ToS say they only give you a revocable license when you “”““buy””“” a game?
GOG is always my first choice to buy games.
It’s a bit frustrating that you have to dive into the forum and check whether the developers actually maintain their GOG release properly before buying though.
It’s a bit frustrating that you have to dive into the forum and check whether the developers actually maintain their GOG release properly before buying though.
TallonMetroidThe way I see it, if you’ve bought a game from GOG you’ve already paid, so no one can truthfully say in good faith that subsequently grabbing a cracked version of the Steam release is a lost sale.
What does good faith have to do with anything the big companies claim?
Not a damn thing.
I like GoG because I can download an executable and load it into wine, which is less easy with steam for Mac. Though they make that harder these days than they used to.
I know the Mac isn’t ideal for gaming but I don’t want to buy a whole other computer and have to deal with KVM and monitor switching just to play games that were released in 2004.
redcalciumMaybe try Lutris? It supports installing games from your GOG accounts.
On Linux I install lutris, log into gog from there, and use that. It’s nice.
Tech With JakeHeroic Games Launcher is great for GOG. I use it on all 3 to get my games running.
DRM-free doesn’t mean piracy. GOGs whole business model is built around selling games DRM free. I don’t pirate but I do use GOG where possible as I hate DRM - it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn’t even solve the problem. DRM is just an expensive waste of money for everyone involved.
To me, the meme acknowledges that GOG installers are shared in groups, which is piracy since the other people didn’t pay for it. (That doesn’t mean it’s bad btw.)
Why wouldn’t the friends like it then?
How is the meme acknowledging that GOG installers are shared in groups? This doesn’t say anything about sharing anything in a group, other than “My game has no DRM, and yours does”
LazaroFilmMake the pay option less shitty than pirating. That’s all it takes.
Gaben taught you well
Half-Life Free confirmed!
it punishes and inconveniences legitimate users for piracy and doesn’t even solve the problem.
IDK about that, the only person who can crack denuvo is empress and she doesn’t crack all games, so I guess it atleast reduces piracy for a while. I agree however that DRM shouldn’t exist.
Snot FlickermanDRM exists for more than just games.
AFAIK there are devs who remove Denuvo as soon as their game gets cracked, and tbh I don’t have too many complaints about that system. That being said, I don’t own any games with Denuvo, so I don’t know why it’s hated so much.
Because it reduces performance. There is no benefit to the consumer. Your game experience is measurably worse because of it.
Get a steam deck and you’ll see why.
How? Does the Steam Deck force Denuvo on everything or something?
No, and it runs denuvo games fine. It’s things like EAC or EA Anti-Cheat that break on Deck/Linux.
I think most people understand that DRM and Anti Cheat are done for 2 completely different reasons.
Well, in the context of the Steam Deck, DRM works fine and anti-cheats often don’t.
I have no idea why you’re talking about the Steam Deck and anti-cheat when the comment I replied to was strictly about Denuvo.
Because Stardust said “Get a Steam Deck and then you’ll see why” which makes no sense in the context of Denuvo DRM, hence it is most likely Stardust confusing anti cheat issues for DRM ones. Not that hard to figure out.
I like to use steam deck when I travel. Denuvo can refuse to launch without internet connection to reactivate a license.
Makes more sense. I had no idea that Denuvo was that unreasonable
Yeah, it’s something you shouldn’t notice if you always have internet connection, but if you start playing where you won’t always have internet connection that’s when problems pop up. That’s when you appreciate the DRM free games.
Enshitification of DRM with denuvo going subscription model has become an unexpected ally in DRM getting removed even if it doesn’t get cracked.
yamaniiYeah, from the leaked Cryotek contract it revealed that devs have to pay again every year or remove it, which means Sega is extremely hostile since they still pay for denuvo on years old games like Persona 5 Royal.
The drm-free marketing that gog does has been successful, but it is just marketing. While It’s true that games sold on gog are drm-free, every game sold on gog that I’ve looked into is also drm-free on steam. The only real benefit is that the gog installers are more convenient for backups than using a steam back up tool.
Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s a lot of peace of mind in knowing everything on the platform is drm free, rather than having to do some research. So it is marketing, but it’s also a promise of curation so to speak.
No, Baldur’s Gate 3 is a cracked release on the steam version.
it’s a weird case where it only uses steam API and does not hard check it. It attempts to check if the currently associated steam account is allowed to play it and shuts down if you don’t, but does not do anything else if it can’t detect an account (such as if you have no steam) and launch normally.
Maven (famous)GOG is also a filter too. Everything in the whole store you know is DRM free when with other stores you have to check each game individually.
Steam is also a form of DRM in most cases though either way.
How would you play a DRM-free game bought through steam without steam? (Genuine question)
Steam isn’t DRM. They offer a (very weak and basic) DRM for free for developers to use but they don’t have too.
For a lot of games you can just install them using steam and then uninstall steam and the games will continue to work.
You just run the executable
So it’s possible to download the installer through steam, store it somewhere and ten years later I can just start the installer without having steam on my system?
Asking out of curiosity, I don’t use steam, I never thought that would be possible?
You can copy the entire game folder and run it that way, as long as the game is actually DRM free it should work just fine.
So no installer then? Or can you download that separately?
You would use Steam as the installer, or you can buy it on GoG and they will give you an installer for the game. Entirely depends on what game you’re trying to copy.
Thank you! I have about 5 games on steam, so I haven’t installed it on my system. The only interesting one is Doom 2016, so for a moment I thought I could download the installer as a backup without having to use steam anymore in the future when I do want to play it again. Would have been nice. Thanks for clarifying!
I don’t think it is because even Steam games without DRM are still modified to work with Steam for things like achievements. There may be games without DRM and without achievements but if a game has either of them it will not work without it.
FischI think they’ll still work without Steam, otherwise you couldn’t play them offline either
They work without reaching the Steam online service, but they need Steam installed.
Yeah, that makes sense. Does kinda suck.