JFC, people in tech are really out there saying that language models will be better at therapy, financial advice, and career advice than trained people.

WTF is wrong with you people? Do you really have no clue about what other people’s jobs actually involve?

Language models can’t even do maths how are they supposed to get good at financial advice?

And therapy? Just… 😑

What’s wrong with people in tech?

@baldur tech is so sheltered from the real world. Many people in tech have never done anything else in their life and it shows and expresses itself in total disregard for other people's professions and skills.

(And the fact that many of them should go to therapy to understand a few things about themselves and why they feel the way they do but don't is just the cherry on top)

@tante Yeah. A lot clicked into place the first time I realised this.
@baldur @tante Yep this here. I've got out my bubble and realised the world doesn't work how we're told - like we're building a knowledge management system and I keep telling the bosses they just need to go to one of our factories to see a large proportion of workers are not digitally literate like we are sitting in our rooms, working from home. It's why I've not yet implemented any AI in our system, just good old fashioned human work.
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@tante @baldur
It's also a matter of WHAT people in tech. Working in tech as a designer is often a humbling experience: no matter how carefully you model & design, you'll have to tweak and tune your design because (and you learn that) reality is more complex
But people who invest capitals in tech or people who just "have ideas" and then pressure other tech people to make that idea real and if they can't make it real it's them not working hard enough never learn that humbling lesson. Or too late

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I have met arrogant designers and humble programmers. Of varying ages and sexes, although usually SWM are the worst offenders. (I am a SWM who has to work hard to check his own arrogance).

@tante @baldur

@tante @baldur I think it's important to acknowledge that what some are saying about AI isn't representative of tech people as a whole. Individual devs are often sheltered, but there are many of us who think far more subtly about the risks and opportunities of AI, particularly LLMs.

LLMs are already affecting the way we work as devs and the systems we are building. This is mostly using the tech to automate parts of a system that are otherwise hard.

@tante @baldur
It feels a lot like 'I let my wife work as a therapist or historian to keep her busy, but I really look down on her work'

I find it weird how people convince themselves that 'i know stuff about computers that others do not know' makes them extremely smart, but then never extend that honor to the soft sciences ('today i learned something new about infant development, the person who told me that must be smart')

@Selena @tante @baldur
IME , corporate IT workplaces measured us against goals and deadlines. Soft skills are harder to prove and that seems to be why they can get overlooked.

I went to study fine art to explore my intuition and creativity and then worked in community engagement. I started to learn more about soft skills to cope with the extra mental and emotional work that those relationships require.

@baldur @tante Nope. The people pushing this are scam artists pure and simple.

Why do they not get called out about it? Most people in news media are incompetent when it comes to most things(pick something you know about and then start reading the reporting around it... it will be terrible... and that is will be no means an outlier, but the standard).

That problem is further made worse thanks to lots of mergers of media/news companies.

Which is further made worse via the 1980s making incompetent business decisions that value only the very short term the standard the world over.

@tante @baldur Yep, this, plus the collision of several other mind worms.

Engineer's Syndrome/Disease: "I am a expert in this specific technical field, therefore I can solve the problems of other fields too."

"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." You see this one all the time, with attempts to solve what are fundamentally hard social problems with tech silver bullets.

Motivated reasoning: tech people would make a lot of money if they really could replace experts from other fields with computers.

@tante @baldur

A part of me really wants the larger tech bubble to burst and witness how millions of tech workers scram to secure jobs in retail, nursing, farming, maintenance, manufacturing, and more, then finding out that hey these jobs actually require a ton of knowledge and skill.

Another part of me is scared to be part of such a diaspora, left with nothing but my senior high papers and no actual education in anything else than being self-taught in making pixels change color on a screen.

@tante @baldur This. I got told once that I'm a good artist and that I should pay my rent in commissions, while having no followers online.