Flying SquidIt all makes sense now.
loxdogsCan someone explain me, why is it bad to think about yourself? This book teaches you, how to first think about yourself, than others.
She(or Nathan) wrote, that if you do something with “I want this, so I do this” manner, that isn’t great. The formula should be “This should be done, because of some rational reasoning, so I’ll do this”. If you are not involving others right to think/live/freedom.
This book teaches you, how to first think about yourself, than others.
In a world of Ayn Rand everyone also works together. She wrote, that people should work with each other. They will benefit from this. One person is not capable of doing everything. However, you can choose who to work with. You would always want to work with someone who does everything right and in time.
All people are not equal, and that is a fact, but in rational world they can work hard to be noticed by another rational person. You don’t judge by the look of their skin, cloths or fortune. You judge by the way they think. There would be no slaves, those who worked hard would earn more.
The machines are built by workers, but who made the blueprint? They sold it or shared it to make life more comfortable for themselves, thus making the progress. You will end up with better and more goods. This is one of the reasons you must value yourself.
Money is virtue, because it’s one of the least thing people agreed on as equal value to something. I really don’t want to barter for the new phone, to be honest.
It’s a problem, that you are not getting paid enough, but that’s not problem of the money, that’s people who are paying less are a problem.
Communism isn’t equal too. You, in fact, would get paid the same amount as everyone else. What’s the point of doing better and more, if you get paid the same?
So I still don’t understand to be honest, are there other explanations? With all my pleasure, if everything is shared, I do not want to share my woman with someone, who needs it more. Share my workplace with someone who needs it more, but I will give it to someone, who’s better than me. Share my payment, because someone needs it more. If I want to, I have some surplus and I won’t need it, than sure, I will share. I won’t do it mandatory.
So I still don’t understand to be honest,
No, you understand perfectly well - you are a simp for parasite ideology. Just like Ayn Rand was.
That’s not an explanation… I am only asking to explain in other way, I could understand. I can admit, that I am wrong, if objective reasoning is heavy enough for me to say “yeah man, whis Ayn Rand is such a parasite”, but I don’t see it, or don’t understand
You don’t understand how capitalism works?
Well, you are getting paid for your work, by someone who managed to get the business going, all hard things aside.
Cowbee [he/they]That’s not Capitalism.
Can you please explain me than? Seems I was wrong all this time…
Capitalism isn’t wage labor, it’s a specific mode of production by which individual Capitalists buy and sell Capital, then pay Workers wage labor to use said Capital to create commodities.
If the entity is Worker Owned, it’s Socialist, as Capitalism requires Capitalists.
In other words, worker is getting paid for creating goods/services for entity owner(capitalist in our case)?
If the entity owner is the body of Workers collectively, it’s Socialist.
Yeah, but my previous take was about capitalism, so did I understand it right?
(Just in case you thought I had forgotten about you.)
If workers want to, that could increase their professional aptitude to be able to maintain or work with new machines, making them more valuable and increasing their wages. If you are valuable you and your manager understands this - It’s in his self-interest to keep you on a workplace
In objectivism, you don’t encroach on others right to live, so the last one is obscure
You have never actually worked for a living, have you?
I am doing it right now and changed to jobs, until I found a great place. I am living with my fiance rn in a flat, without parents. Before this, I changed two jobs, I was It Specialist(anykey) in Vet clinic and a packer at a pharmacy. Both places I didn’t like and now I am a system administrator at insurance company. I like what I am doing and people I work with.
Another example is my father, he changed his job less than a month ago. He found a better job, where they paying him ~30% more for less work. He wasn’t changing his workplace for 10 years, but he was getting more and more duties for the same payment. So I don’t understand why people complain about labour. If you are not forced to work under a threat of death, you can always leave. It’s your choice to stay.
It Specialist
Do tell - who paid for you to acquire the know-how that made you qualified for this role, eh? What’s the ROI for the people that made this expensive investment in your education?
my father
Oh yes… do bring more people into this conversation that completely bucked “rational self-interest” for your sake - I’m sure this will go really well for your argument.
In my case government paid for the fisrt half and the other half is student loan I am paying rn. I pay the bank and government with taxes.
I am providing examples of this happening in my life, that’s why I know this is real for a fact. I have done this and saw people do this. Why wouldn’t it go well for my argumentation?
Should you believe in this? Probably no, at least I wouldn’t. You have your own examples and you believe in them more, than some stranger on the internet(great job, that’s how you should behave)
In my case government paid for the fisrt half
Ooooh… the ghost of Ayn Rand is bitterly disappointed in you.
And why would her ghost be disappointed in me? In her philosophy government exists and continue to exist. It would take a lot of time to reform.
I am seeing with my own eyes, that without “government approved” education I can’t get work in my country /: