MicroWaveFeb 28, 2024

Nikki Haley: America Is Committing “Suicide” by Voting for Trump

https://lemmy.world/post/12512256

Nikki Haley: America Is Committing “Suicide” by Voting for Trump - Lemmy.World

To use political jargon, Nikki Haley—who has lost primary contests in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and her home state of South Carolina—does not have a snow ball’s chance in hell of winning the GOP nomination for president. Still, she is apparently intent on not going down without a fight, and to that end, the former governor has a message for voters: Anyone who votes for Donald Trump has a death wish for America.

Show threadgivesomefucksFeb 28, 2024

Haley is just as crazy as trump. Which is why normalizing him by running worse Dem candidates than we normally would is so terrible.

Suddenly people like Haley and Liz Cheney start being called “moderates” because they’re halfway between trump and a neoliberals running with a D by their name.

Show threadhddsxFeb 28, 2024

I’m a conservative moderate independent. I very briefly considered Haley because I heard some good things about her. BUT, her views on abortion and pardoning Trump so we can “move on” as a country feel unconscionable to me.

I really don’t like Biden, but I can’t blame him for running for reelection. Incumbent presidents tend to have an advantage with voters. Part of the reason I dislike him is that my ideal candidate, Warren, is unlikely to run in 2028.

And the thing I admired about conservatives is no longer valid. I can respect that you have a different view than I do, and that you stand by your values. Republicans threw away their values and are set to throw away democracy to accomplish their goals.

And the thing is, I would vote for a literal flaming pile of poop over Trump and Biden certainly is better than that, as much as I don’t like him.

Show threadSerinusFeb 28, 2024

Honestly Biden has been pretty great, and the only really liberal thing he’s doing is forgiving student debt. That’s not that radical or expensive.

He doesn’t go far enough, imo, but with this Congress he can’t. I’d love to see a top marginal rate of 80% for earnings over 4 million per year.

I’d consider voting for someone slightly worse and younger, but that candidate doesn’t exist this year. There’s a hell of a lot worse, more loyal to Putin than America, fascist, and still about the same age.

Show threadhddsxFeb 28, 2024

I disagree that forgiving student debt is a good thing. They signed a contract and they should abide by it. I do think that he should be fixing the root cause: why is college so expensive and what can we do to make it more accessible? Also, why are student loans so predatory? Why can the interest rate exceed inflation?

I would also love to see a high marginal tax rate, but I disagree with the 4 million cut off. We shouldn’t write in 4 million. It should be an equation of X times the poverty rate.

And yeah, there’s no good candidates this year

Show threadMarketsupreme
Forgiving student debt would provide financial relief for 50million+ (a good chunk of the country) and would quite literally provide an economic boon instantly. Not to mention the millions of POC that would give immediate upward mobility. If the govt can bail out big business and forgive their PPP loans during the pandemic they can afford to cut student loans. I agree with you on your other points though.
Feb 28, 2024 at 3:18pmWeb
Show threadhddsxFeb 28, 2024

Here’s the thing. We shouldn’t have bailed out big businesses in the first place. We should claw back that money. We shouldn’t have to bail out people with student loans. We should fix the root cause and give them a non-predatory option.

Also, we need reparations for black people.

Show threadMarketsupremeFeb 28, 2024
I completely agree with all of that. Forgiveness is merely a bandaid for a broader solution, but providing intermediary relief is not saying we shouldn’t also address the root cause.
Show threadhddsxFeb 28, 2024
What would you say to pausing the payments until a solution can be found?