(My bias: I’m not a car guy. I’m a 15-minute kind of city guy.)

Apple’s problem with Titan was not complicated, almost singular: like everyone else, they found out L5 was/is not achievable and there really was no point introducing a car without it in mid-2020s.

@counternotions Getting into a car that's always climate controlled is the only thing that really matters. Being located in No. Cali is a real problem for would be car makers.