bozoFeb 27, 2024

Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

https://lemmy.world/post/12486728

Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu - Lemmy.World

Nintendo’s full case filing [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/519627952648880128/1212141332412235787/1.pdf?ex=65f0c196&is=65de4c96&hm=b91e24f1c26e4fb3599891133c9058059e3df12ebeba2b79fd4c5ea7c12bba5e&] _____ https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1762576284817768457/ [https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1762576284817768457/] “NEW: Nintendo is suing the creators of popular Switch emulator Yuzu, saying their tech illegally circumvents Nintendo’s software encryption and facilitates piracy. Seeks damages for alleged violations and a shutdown of the emulator. Notes 1 million copies of Tears of the Kingdom downloaded prior to game’s release; says Yuzu’s Patreon support doubled during that time. Basically arguing that that is proof that Yuzu’s business model helps piracy flourish.”

Show threadDudewitbowFeb 27, 2024

the funniest shit about the paperowrk is that nintendo indirectly says nintendo is doing illegal work because they claim a video game emulator is a piece of software that allows users to unlawfully play pirated video games that were published for a specific console on a general purpose device.

they either have to say NSO/Nes/Snes classic are not emulation, or admit their definition of emulators is not the universally accepted definition of it, else Nintendo just Claimed Nintendo is serving up and charging for an unlawful service that is NSO.

Show threadschmidtsterFeb 27, 2024
FWIW you can lawfully play pirated games, so that means nothing.
Show threadRentlar
Case in point there is some evidence that Nintendo might have used a dumped and illegally distributed version of Super Mario Bros. in their Wii Virtual Console
Did Nintendo download a Mario ROM and sell it back to us?

Nintendo's stance on emulation has always been a rigid one. As far as the company is concerned, if you're downloading a…

Eurogamer.net
Feb 27, 2024 at 10:16pmWeb
Show threadschmidtsterFeb 27, 2024

That’s a funny one too me, because they are the original source when you dig your way down, so how are they doing anything wrong there?

Yeah it’s someone else’s work… which isn’t there’s anyways… so isn’t it always nintendos then?

Show threadcatloafFeb 27, 2024
They’re profiting from something they themselves say is illegal.
Show threadschmidtsterFeb 27, 2024

It’s illegal if you don’t own the rom or decoded it with their keys. If you have the physical copy of the game, and a way to decrypt it, it’s not illegal to play the rom on an emulator.

So it’s not illegal, it becomes illegal when you don’t have the physical copy, or decode it with their stuff.

Show threadAtemuFeb 28, 2024
That’s rather clear evidence that they dumped their own ROM and distributed that. Since they own the rights to that ROM, they’re not distributing it illegally though. They can dump and distribute their ROMs all they want; they own the rights to them.
Show threadRentlarFeb 28, 2024

I’m no legal expert but Nintendo’s argument seems to surround a video game emulator being a tool whose primary use is to facilitate illegal circumvention of DRM and piracy. Nintendo’s use of emulation for a legal means to resell their games on another platform, could suggest otherwise. The possible use of a ROM illegally distributed by a 3rd party as inputs in a legitimate Nintendo emulator (though Nintendo denies this) could help separate the issues between ROMs and emulation, because Nintendo’s emulator isn’t used for piracy.

Nintendo could use a copy of the freely available Yuzu to emulate Switch games on their rumored Switch 2, if they were so inclined, and it would be a legitimate use case.

Show threadMangoFeb 28, 2024
I cannot even come up with a way to express how goddamn hilarious that is!!