I miss bread, says girl, as Gaza food crisis mounts

https://lemmy.world/post/12252067

I miss bread, says girl, as Gaza food crisis mounts - Lemmy.World

I’ve never missed bread. That’s so sad that there’s a population that misses bread only because another population has decided that they’re less than human.
Heartbreaking. She looks so young.
She’ll age more than most of us, if she survives at all. A forced famine was always part of the plan.
Both Hamas and Israel need to be held accountable for their respective atrocities, not a young and innocent child.
Dont forget GenoJoe and friends
Genobiden? Bidencide?
“Both the Nazis and the Jewish partisans need to be held accountable for their respective atrocities!”
Both the Afrikaans and the ANC terrorists need to be held accountable for the violence.

The Hamas have outright stated their goal is the genocide of the Jewish people.

With your metaphor, are you comparing the Hamas to the Nazis and Israel to the Jewish partisans - or - are you comparing the Hamas to the Jewish partisans and the Israel to the Nazis?

Hamas has stated their goal is not the genocide of Jewish people. So maybe apply some critical thinking, look into primary sources, do some historical analysis instead of taking things at face value?
Okay I condemn Israel as much as the next guy, but Hamas has people who really deserve a trial in the Hague.

An IAF soldier reading this article:
"Aww, how sad. I wonder if there's anything I could do to help? Ooh, I know!"
He then proceeds to scribble "Bread" on one of the munitions he's loading.

A second soldier notices this and comes near.
"Hey man, that's not cool. What's she going to do with just one bread? We need a dozen loaves at least!"
He starts scribbling as well.

Their commander looks on speechless and shakes his head at their antics.
"What a bunch of degenerates."
He places his own marker aside and goes to reprimand his subordinates. Behind him a missile newly babtized 'Dildo of Doom' lies in silence.

I don’t understand how Israel can create this humanitarian crisis and then prevent aid from helping. I just went to Oxfam’s website to see what they are doing and where donations are going and they’ve only been able to provide about 6,000 food supplies because Israel won’t allow aid workers to have access. As human beings we gave a moral obligation to save humans from dying needlessly but Israel is doing this on purpose. They don’t deserve this, it doesn’t make sense.
Allowing aid would be counter to their goal of genocide.
It makes sense if you think of Israel as a colonial power.

It does make sense, but priorities are different so it's less noticeable.

From a military point of view, starving the enemy is a victory in itself. Means fewer numbers to deal with.

And that's all these people are to them, the enemy.

They pretty much were doing this even before the attack. They were on purpose limiting the amount of resources entering Gaza, and that is why this tunnel network in Gaza was built in the first place. Because Israel was purposefully limiting the amount of goods delivered into Gaza.

It is really despicable what Israel is doing in Gaza and the West Bank and what they were doing for years without any meaningful reaction from the West.

Yeah but obviously these people are lesser than everyone else, so it totally makes sense this 4 year old along with thousands of others deserve starvation and should even have family to comfort her.

This just might be the most heart breaking clip I’ve ever seen.

I don’t understand how Israel can create this humanitarian crisis and then prevent aid from helping.

It’s a lot cheaper to starve people to death in the giant concentration camp they were born in, than gather them, to transport them to much smaller concentration camps and then have to spend money on Zyklon B to get rid of them.

Du Pont is really picky and choosy with which totalitarian regimes they supply extermination gas to.
It’s easy when you’re racist and see non-Jews as subhuman.
non-jews and non-whites… they have also turned away black jewish people trying to enter and claim the “right to return” because well the racism thing
She says she misses bread and then the man asks her where her dad is and she says “he’s in heaven” and she fights back the tears.
Holy fuck.
Ya think I’m going to give this one a skip. I’m tearing up from just the picture and the headline alone =(
Can you link it? Fuck Israel in all ways possible, if anyone deserves to burn in hell for eternity, they are the topmost contender
I mean, unless we assume that the United States is a terrorist organisation, then it would make sense why they would support the likes of the IOF… Eh Eh?
One thing I have seen is that ‘murica is smart, instead of directly killing the people they hate, they get it done through Israel while putting on a mask ‘If you daddy Israel wont stop, I’ll make sure to spank you’, Russia could learn a lesson or two

Honestly, If you ask me, the United States is the largest terror organisation in the world.

If we need evidence, me exibit A is this post, this girl would not be missing bread or her father if it where not for the United States… if we need more examples I am happy to provide, but I am going to be suspect if this argument 1 does not turn you

Ofc, they have been committing crimes especially in the middle east ever since my parents were born, and have directly and indirectly killed millions, but ofc they always get away with it, however if someone else does the same, they get freaking bombed, I hate every autocratic dictatorship around the world but I just have a personal grudge with the democratic US, I don’t think anyone has killed more than them, while also being directly responsible for the rise of radical organizations around the world
“democratic” studies show that the will of the people has no effect on the decisions of the government, Oligarchic or Plutocratic is the correct word
Well its not like the ppl in the US have much of a choice tho, you can either choose genocide Joe or genocide squared trump, I have no idea why they still elected ppl like reagan or bush tho
In hindsight it probably wasn't a good idea to bite the hand that feeds. Hamas evidently doesn't give a shit about the condition of their civilians as they could end this immediately any time they want by releasing the hostages and surrendering. Critics here expect Israel to care about Gazans more than their own elected government does, which continues to exploit them for their value as human shields, martyrs, and sympathetic children to be paraded before the press instead of keeping them safe. Yet they still somehow still enjoy popular support. It's incredible.
Sigh just go get a life. Nobody wants to read your genocidal apologia. And Israel isn't the hand that feeds you piece of shit they're the cause of this whole mess.
  • Not genocide, no matter how much you repeat the mantra.
  • Clearly Gaza is dependent on Israel for basic necessities, they provoked war with them anyway.

Clearly Gaza is dependent on Israel for basic necessities, they provoked war with them anyway.

Uh yes, that's how occupation works. As an occupying power Israel has an obligation to supply Gazans with food, water and other necessities, even during an insurgency.

Gaza was blockaded, not occupied. Hamas had internal autonomy, Israel just controlled what could get in. It's an important distinction with a lot of legal implications. The west bank is occupied. Gaza is not.
Hope that paycheck you’re getting keeps you comfortable in Tel Aviv. The world will not forget.
What an odd thing to assume, why, is Hamas paying you? Is being a shill the only reason one might disagree?
Odd is defending the deaths of 30,000 people because of socially constructed religions, borders, races and laws. But I have empathy and don’t have an Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Do Sociopaths Feel Empathy and Remorse?

People with antisocial personality disorder (sociopaths and psychopaths) have feelings and emotions but sometimes lack empathy and remorse. Here's when and why.

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People organize themselves according to those things. Even if you think the organization of societies and nations and cultures and religions are arbitrary, said groups still have a right to collective self-defense, to reprisal, to safety, to disincentivize further attacks by responding to violence with violence, to make the next potential attacker think twice about pulling another Oct 7. I support Israel deposing Hamas and achieving meaningful safety by whatever legal means they deem nessicary. They were the victims of a great injustice and I have sympathy and empathy for them. I have significantly less empathy for the nation who orchestrated the slaughter and intentionally provoked this response while hiding behind their own nation's children, using the inevitable tragedy to vilify Israel for defending themselves, parading the innocents they caused to suffer before the cameras. If anything this is a self-inflicted wound caused by Palestinian support of Hamas, militarization and indoctrination of youth, and popular intifada. Endless belligerence provoking predictable responses.

Now you're diagnosing me with a mental disorder for disagreeing with you? If you believe the only reason one might disagree with you is because they are a shill, have a mental disorder, or are fundamentally indecent or evil, you are in serious need of some introspection.

That’s a lot of words to say you’re a Zionist and an apologist for ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

Like many here, I'm on the side of civilians - of any ethnicity.

The overwhelming majority of civilians in Gaza did not elect Hamas (happened before half of them were born) and it feels disingenuous to call them an elected government.

Nevertheless yes, I expect everyone in this conflict to care about these civilians a lot more than most of the combatants do. Expecting people to act humanely isn't unreasonable.

It's not at all "incredible" that we are against the starvation of children.

What Happens When Evil Wins?

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My oh my that is a biased youtuber. Blatantly saying no one could possibly disagree and be a, "decent person," that Israel defending itself is, "evil winning," makes it clear.

They "stole" the land while simultaneously buying it legally, but somehow it doesn't count because it's just, "a piece of paper"? Okay. That's how land purchasing works, and it's not theft.

It took a while to find sources, the interview of the man "laughing at atrocities" was talking about the Tantura massacre, which was terrible. One can certainly find many examples of atrocious behavior and war crimes in this long conflict. Neither Israel nor Palestine has clean hands. I've seen accounts of equally egregious or worse behavior by the Arab League, but that's indirectly relevant in today's conflict at best. Those atrocities happened in a war from generations ago.

In this most recent chapter of the war, Gaza's once-elected government, Hamas, was clearly the antagonist. Oct 7th was the direct cause of all this. If you have the stomach for it, you should see what they did. (warning: NSFL, cruelty, violence, death.) It put Tantura to shame, and it isn't an atrocity of the past, it is of the present, one that needs to be addressed. Unlike grievances from generations ago, the belligerents remain a threat and further attacks need to be prevented.

Israel deserves safety and binding their hands before that can be achieved, before Hamas is deposed, before the hostages are returned, is akin to holding them down so they can't respond to an antagonist punching them. That's not something a good person would do in my opinion. It sucks that there's a cost to civilians but that's always the case when one's government starts a war and loses. I want this war to end, but not until Israel has achieved meaningful safety goals. Otherwise, this constant violence and belligerence will just continue, and it will be blindly fired rockets, suicide bombings, and Oct 7th's indefinitely.

I don't find this rando cheering for the downfall of America and Israel to be compelling, if anything it's evidence of the media bubble you inhabit.

Tantura massacre - Wikipedia

So, not a decent person.
A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

Jewish Currents

It's possible to disagree in good faith without going ad hominem. You should try it. I can both disagree that this is a genocide and be a decent person.

It's disheartening how effectively Hamas and their allies has convinced the left that they are the good guys and Israel must be stopped before they are defeated. Iran made a good investment.

Interesting that you dishonestly and conveniently disregarded the expert opinion of Raz Segal; an Israeli historian residing in the United States who is Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Endowed Professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, where he also directs the Master of Arts in Holocaust and Genocide Studies program. Who vehemently describes what is happening as a genocide.
A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

Jewish Currents
I'm sure you're aware many similarly credentialed historians disagree with Raz Segal about that.
But yet you failed to list them. I have another Holocaust researcher that condemns Israel’s actions.
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I dunno. This could be a Hamas ruse.

/s

WE could be living is a Utopia but religion exists.
A lot of bad things have happened because of religion but i wouldn’t consider it the only thing keeping us from an utopia.
Look man, I am not religious, but religion is not the reason bad people do bad things, I am not going to say it is nessicarily an inharent part of their charicter, but there are other reasons. People will also do great feets of good in the name of religion as well. to boil it all down to religion is really an over simplification.

You see lemmy has decided whenever anything bad happens religion is to blame, Measles? Religion, Global Warming? Religion, War? Religion

Idk what the fuck is going on in the US, but from what I can tell is that they are using religion as an excuse to do whatever the fuck they want (anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the bible knows this is wrong anyway), while also not changing their conservative mindset, I live in a religious conservative society as well and it is 100% the conservativesm I have a problem with, not with people believing in a god

Ill be honest, I am an Athiest, and I had about a year where I went through the “reddit athiest” phase where all religion is evil, but religion is very rarely, especialy in modern time (but I would argue even in pre modern) the root cause of the issue, is it a stated reason, yes, is it an accelerant to the issue maybe, but very rarely have I found it to be the rout cause.
Religion in itself is not evil, but it definitely can be used in a very evil way, but I don’t think ‘kill all religion’ is the way to combat it, instead we should educate ppl about what their religion actually says, it’s pretty clear that Jesus was a socialist who wanted the rich to pay their taxes, and Islam has a mandatory charity every muslim has to give, just to name a few things, but people don’t know all this, because all they have been taught is ‘kill anyone who is not like you’, and also show that religion is something you can share, not force, and this again ties back to what I said about conservatism, people don’t want to accept they are wrong about somethings they believe in
In the US religion is absolutely being used to spearhead social conservatism and anti-government ideas. Evangelists are backing candidates who say stuff like “only while male Christians should be able to vote”. And the judge appointed to the Supreme Court that shifted it to the far right has heavy ties to that same section of Christianity.
What the fuck does being a christian have to do with voting?

Religion is a catch-all for beliefs, ideology, etc, and it is religion. The fight is your sky God versus my sky God. Meanwhile, it’s the same fucking God.

Name a mass genocide / terrorist attack committed by atheists. And I’m talking about groups, not some neckbeard from Reddit who decided to shoot up a school.

I’ll wait.