Martin PorcheronFeb 17, 2024
https://bsky.halvasweb.space

HOT TAKE

FRONT END DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM USING THEIR HARDWARE FOR A MONTH EACH YEAR AND INSTEAD GIVEN A LOW END 10 YEARS OLD NETBOOK

Feb 16, 2024 at 8:05pmWeb
Show threadHylke Bons 🍵Feb 16, 2024
@halva specially designers need to stop using Apple hardware and see what their design really look like to most people.
Show threadIan K. Rogers ikr?╭ರ_ಠFeb 16, 2024
@hbons @halva Again, go work in corporate and that's exactly what you'll get. The CEO will make millions a year and you'll be stuck hotdesking with an HP laptop and an Acer monitor.
Show threadResunaFeb 17, 2024
@hbons @halva Also, they need to use Firefox exclusively for a month.
Show threadmirabilosFeb 18, 2024
@resuna @halva @hbons one week of lynx though
Show threadPēteris KrišjānisFeb 17, 2024
@hbons @halva next, you will kill puppies 😳 just kidding, as someone who worked on Macs for five years, and have used all possible systems....yes, this.
Show threadHylke Bons 🍵Feb 17, 2024
@peteriskrisjanis @halva nothing wrong with using Macs, I do so myself. I’ve also seen designers obsess over the shading of a button that wouldn’t even be visible for most people that used Lenovo’s with bad screens back then.
Show threadnightooFeb 18, 2024
@hbons @peteriskrisjanis @halva
Next unpopular opinion: yes, there's a lot wrong with using Macs!
Show thread☕🧊🐈∞Feb 16, 2024
@halva this should also apply to game developers
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Show threadyakkoj 🦊Feb 16, 2024
@halva also, their internet access needs to be capped speed-wise and maybe even data-wise for that same time period.
Show threadhttps://bsky.halvasweb.spaceFeb 16, 2024

@yakkoj yes

3G tethering, 5 gigabyte cap

anything more you pay out of your pocket

Show threadSystemZFeb 16, 2024
@halva @yakkoj Just imagine downloading all JS packages on that 🥹
Paying for used MBs? Devs would quickly reduce JS deps 🔥
Show threadIan K. Rogers ikr?╭ರ_ಠFeb 16, 2024
@systemz @halva @yakkoj Can you imagine if all the Frontend devs stopped getting to use JS and actually had to learn CSS instead?
Show threadyakkoj 🦊Feb 16, 2024
@ianrogers @systemz @halva I'd imagine we'd have "CSS framework" baggage to replace all the junky js Framework baggage ;o)
Show threadIan K. Rogers ikr?╭ರ_ಠFeb 16, 2024
@yakkoj @systemz @halva Even bootstrap is under 2MB including the CSS, fonts and JS ;)
Show threadmirabilosFeb 18, 2024
@halva @yakkoj I’d say come to Germany but below LTE we have actual E (Edge) now 3G is gone… 5 GiB is well-dimensioned.
Show threadArctic (back up - see pinned)Feb 16, 2024
@halva I do think that they need to be reigned in but I think that limiting things to the power of a netbook is a little too far in the other direction lol
Show threadmaryjane Feb 16, 2024
@halva A month is not enough...
Show threadMauser IIFeb 16, 2024
@maryjane @halva
A different piece of junk every month.
Show threadPepper1700 Feb 16, 2024
@halva I have a 12 years old notebook, but is is high end unfortunately.
Show threadMiaFeb 16, 2024
@halva Bold of you to assume I'm not already running a potato
Show thread[Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD  Feb 16, 2024
@halva 10 year old netbook? cmon, do better. i use a 15 year old laptop most days (although its higher end than "netbook"). at least force frontend devs to make software that supports opengl version "fucking ancient lol only vlc runs on this"
Show thread[Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD  Feb 16, 2024
@halva although maybe limit them to hdd and 4gb ram as well (my laptop supports max 4gb officially, although i run it with 8gb which is the max that people have found it works with)
Show threadHasko 🇪🇺🦄🌻Feb 16, 2024
@halva 😂
Show threadenderFPFeb 16, 2024
@halva Even more so, leadership should have to deal with a low end 10yo netbook for at least three months every year.
Show threadch0ccyra1n is leaving fedi soonFeb 16, 2024
@halva already using a 10 year old netbook but developing extremely bloated frontends anyways mwahahaha  /s
Show threadRev. Bussy Body of The Church of America MLM and Shooting ClubFeb 16, 2024
@ch0ccyra1n @halva a crime that is its own punishment
Show threadMootly ObviateFeb 16, 2024
@halva
But I do stop using my personal machine to use the one the company gave me (aka, passed on to me when someone else left eight years ago) every time I go into the office to work. Honest!
Show threadAubrey De Los DestinosFeb 16, 2024
@halva @april, that's a good idea.
Show threadhacknorrisFeb 16, 2024
@AubreyDeLosDestinos @halva @april yep
Show threadstarfox 64Feb 16, 2024
@halva as a front end developer, i 100% agree
Show threadMike Feb 16, 2024
@halva I love this. I actually keep around a dual core Celeron laptop around for this purpose. If my web app is too painfully slow on that, I've got work to do
Show thread *Ada - Np-93/237 Feb 16, 2024
@halva reminds me of a 10 year old laptop review that was using up to date windows 11, and windows + edge itself crashed and froze multiple times but ran high end benchmarks without freezing or crashing (albeit at the worst score imaginable.)
Show threadTimjanFeb 17, 2024

@ada
Windows 11, Edge, and in particular Windows Explorer crashes and freezes frequently on *1 year old high end* laptops.
Your point is?
@halva

(Okay, those are work issued laptops, with whatever corporate spyware they came with)

Show thread *Ada - Np-93/237 Feb 17, 2024
@timjan @halva my point is that microsoft should use their own software on a variety of hardware, your remark doesn't change that. idk where this hostility is coming from.
Show threadTimjanFeb 18, 2024
@ada
My apologies, that was not what I intended.
What I tried to convey was that I find that Microsoft has stability issues in general.
(And so do other systems, I'm not denying that)
@halva
Show threadmalevolent dictator for lifeFeb 16, 2024
@halva frontend programmers should get 10 year old laptops, and city planners should not be allowed to drive
Show threadWyatt (🏳️‍⚧️♀?)Feb 17, 2024

@astrid @halva

Why stop at 10?
Make them all use a powerbook G4 (jeez, 20 this year) so they finally learn about making endian-independent code and Firefox finally gets fixed after 60 major version numbers of being broken.

I run debian on mine and it's appalling how much breaks just because no one has a big endian CPU to test stuff on.

Show threadEmma (IPG)Feb 17, 2024
@wyatt8740 @astrid @halva the amount of software that exists today that is built entirely around false assumptions about endianness and even cpu architecture (load-bearing x86 assembly that nobody knows how to replace) is frightening. the latter is being solved with a greater push to arm on the desktop but the former will remain unsolved
Show threadWyatt (🏳️‍⚧️♀?)Feb 17, 2024
@ipg @astrid @halva Worst thing is ARM even has provisions for big endian systems and we're still using endian-worst instead
Show threadWyatt (🏳️‍⚧️♀?)Feb 17, 2024
@ipg @astrid @halva I'm still sad we're getting ARM instead of RISC-V or MIPS though :(
Show threadSyd Polk (he/his)Feb 18, 2024
@astrid @halva At my current job at Indeed, we are told to code for people who have cracked phones on bad cell networks and whose first language is not English.
Show threadDan SugalskiFeb 16, 2024
@halva Hotter take -- they should do this while using cellphone-tethered internet while riding the subway of the closest major city that has one.
Show threadMia ‘Meetings? I Abstain’ Luna TearmoonFeb 17, 2024
@wordshaper @halva https://infrequently.org/2024/01/performance-inequality-gap-2024/ has pretty decent suggestions
The Performance Inequality Gap, 2024

How much HTML, CSS, and JavaScript can we afford? More than in years past, but much less than frontend developers are burdening users with.

Alex Russell