*When you hack, but your first languages is not English
@bruces I don't see BASIC, FORTRAN, Pascal, and PL/1, my first languages. Nor LISP, Prolog. Damn kids, get off my lawn!
@shentonfreude lisp is there at the bottom.
@bruces The choice to order them alphabetically instead of by date makes for very confusing reading.
@carturo222 @bruces er, does your alphabet come in a different order than mine does
@cemhend @bruces Hmm. I read the graph again and realize I haven't had my caffeine today.
@carturo222 @bruces My version of sorting alphabetically might be special but will have 'Rust > Go', 'Clojure < Scala', 'Css < Typescript', etc...
@bruces Why is the graphic not sorted either alphabetically by language name, or numerically by release date?

@atoponce

Because newcomers to the Internet are used to being presented with unsorted lists that must be consumed by brute force.

So that's what they produce.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/57158/ballad-of-orange-and-grape

@bruces

Ballad of Orange and Grape by Muriel Rukeyser | Poetry Foundation

After you finish your work

Poetry Foundation
@bruces The oldest (and not listed) programming language I had contact with would be Forth (1970).

@bruces ahem… SQL

Folks can make strong arguments it ain’t a programming language, but it’s something I hack.

@bruces my first language is German then Spanish... In my teens I thought myself English and in my 30's I learned French.
The oldest programing language I'm proficient in (and by no way the first I lernend) is COBOL, when I was studying programming (early 2000 in south America) it was still considered useful, even if it was outdated, because a bunch of legacy wending machines still ran on COBOL