Ask and you shall receive.
@georgetakei God created the lead. Checkmate, atheists.
@benedikt_lauenburg @georgetakei
There's always a way to bring it back to god creating everything, as long as you don't mind zooming the goalposts around like they are attached to faulty rockets that are jammed on full power.
@Naich @georgetakei @benedikt_lauenburg there will always be an apologetic unfalsifiable (in the Popperian sense) response in the name of god. And they can always claim that they don't believe the methods to determine the age of things... Once you tell them that the same way they don't believe scientific claims is how you doubt their sources, it's a stalemate situation... Nothing gained, nothing lost.
@EduEdu @Naich @georgetakei @benedikt_lauenburg
About that nothing lost.... Woman would like to keep our right to healthcare!
@Naich @benedikt_lauenburg @georgetakei always? Supernatural causation is impossible to analyze/verify with natural means. An omniscient being can only know of their omniscience through that omniscience. Such a being can’t verify their omniscience isn’t lying to them. Therefore any God that claims to have omniscience is lying and anything they claim shouldn’t be trusted.

@benedikt_lauenburg @georgetakei

Are you talking about lead as formed by the neutron-absorption process, or by the decay of radionuclides of heavier elements? Let's be precise, now.

Atheists, freed from the time consuming process of having to constantly kiss God's ass, have made the time to study physics. Knowledge is so much more sexy than myth.

oh, I'm sorry. Was HE listening? Is HE mad with me? oh, well.

@benedikt_lauenburg @georgetakei The devil created lead to trick us into thinking earth is older than 4000 years. (Probably by starting with a boatload of Uranium-238 so that the amount of lead produced by the decay-chain after 4000 years is large enough for us to notice.)

@benedikt_lauenburg @georgetakei

Just how full of shit is The Bible?

Check it out for yourself verse by verse. The whole damn thing:

Skepticsannotatedbible.com

@georgetakei This isn't the only way to make lead, and I bet a majority of the lead that exists didn't get there via uranium, etc. decays ... but I still approve this dunk

@agbuckley @georgetakei

if i recall correctly the first work done on estimating the age of the earth was done with rocks that they can prove form with uranium, but not with lead. therefore, any lead in such rocks can only come from uranium decay, and with that they can age the rocks

and more broadly, i think they can also show how lead that was formed as lead is different than lead that formed from radioactive decay, depending on the dominant isotope number

@benroyce @agbuckley @georgetakei
Uranium-lead (U-Pb) dating. They do that with minerals (like zircon) that reject lead but contain uranium. So when they find lead in there is has to come from a decay process.
@cqd_sos @benroyce @agbuckley @georgetakei thanks for these answers, I was thinking the same thing as Andy
@benroyce @agbuckley @georgetakei probably would have been better if the original comment had included this valuable info instead of saying "the existence of lead" lol

@raphaelmorgan @agbuckley @georgetakei

yup, he should have said "the existence of lead besides lead-204"

but i forgive him because

1. it's a throw away social media dunk, not a thesis paper

2. those who know, know what he's getting at without the need to be 100% scientifically accurate

3. those who, rather than merely not knowing, but outright antagonistic towards science, won't even try to understand

@agbuckley @georgetakei please explain to me how you can create an element without a nuclear reaction?

My education is probably limited in this area.

@SethBrown @georgetakei There's a nuclear reaction, but most lead comes from building _up_ from lighter elements, not decaying _down_ from heavier ones.

Heavy elements are dominantly made by supernovae (since iron is the most stable nuclear structure, fusion burning doesn't get to heavier elements).

So heavy = rare: you don't get most of a very stable heavy element (lead is a common endpoint of nuclear decay chains) by decays down from rarer things.

@SethBrown @georgetakei Instead most lead in the universe is built by repeated neutron accumulation and beta decay in stars. Wikipedia is good on this, under "Origin and occurrence" at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead The amount due to delays is about 0.75%... over 4.5 billion years!
Lead - Wikipedia

@georgetakei
Ignorance isn't bliss, it's just embarrassing to everyone but the ignorant.
@georgetakei

Unless you believe that God "antiqued" the Earth, then none of that matters.
@ferricoxide @georgetakei Ah. Last Thursday-ism and all that?
@kawa @georgetakei

/shrug

When it comes down to it, I know of no way of proving that what I perceive as "yesterday" – or any arbitrary moment prior to "now" – actually happened.
@kawa @ferricoxide @georgetakei Ah, "Scientific Last Thursdayism." There's a blast from the Usenet past. Creationists always have a trap door labeled "God did it" when they paint themselves into a logical corner. Pointless to engage with them.
@chuck88 Makes for excellent YT videos though.
@ferricoxide @georgetakei even if they did believe that 4000 years is literally within the scope of recorded human history
@raptor85 @georgetakei

...Which, itself, could be part of that antiquing.

@georgetakei

Me: Ok, sure it is, but are we talking human years? Dog years? Went under a magical hill to party with the fey so time’s a little wacky now years?

@georgetakei
The late great Bill Hicks had a great take on this: https://youtu.be/YzKV8oaI9V8?si=CX4Z9SvyIDn1pdyp
Bill Hicks - Dinosaurs in the Bible (polskie napisy).avi

YouTube
@georgetakei Can't change a mind that's atrophied from lack of use.

@georgetakei

Scientist here, just a bit of a pet peve here. This isnt a good answer. Lead can form through normal processes (stellar)and doesnt require radioactive decay as its main source. In fact most lead on earth existed when the earth was formed.

@freemo @georgetakei
My thought, not a good answer. Supernova nucleosynthesis can produce lead.

@cqd_sos

Yup, thats the normal way its created.

@georgetakei

@cqd_sos

I'm curious, did you see my reply on Takei's post directly, or from my page or something?

@georgetakei

@freemo @georgetakei
I'm following George on Mastodon and just scrolled through the replies to this particular post, because I also felt the answer left much to be desired and was curious what others might have to say on that.

@cqd_sos

Thts interesting since Universeodon recently suspended our whole server in retaliation for me calling our their new moderator for abusive practices. So wouldnt have expected my replies to show.

@georgetakei

@freemo @georgetakei
Maybe your answers don't show up on their server (universeodeon.com), and are invisible for George in consequence, but do show up on others which haven't banned yours, like mine (mastodon.online).

Never looked into how Mastodon works precisely, and whether ban lists propagate, for example.

@cqd_sos

Yea that appears to be the case.

@georgetakei

@freemo @georgetakei
Seems so. Looking at the posts' page on George's server directly your answer appears to be missing. https://universeodon.com/@georgetakei/111936656496446905
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@freemo @georgetakei Yup. The proper answer is to do with the changing ratios of the decaying isotopes, but that's for somebody cleverer than me to work out.
@freemo @georgetakei I was scrolling down looking for a better answer, since the one in the original post didn't convince me either. Thanks for sharing some knowledge!
@georgetakei dear God, help me to shut up until I know what I'm talking about.
@peterrone @georgetakei oh so that's where vows of silence come from.
@georgetakei This would be sufficient if we were dealing with Vulcans. Instead, we are stuck with humans.
@georgetakei I have learnt my thing for today!
@georgetakei FYI: Many times your pics just don’t come through. Unknown if common or just me. iOS on iPhone here.
@leswarden
A "you" problem.
Androud on a Samsoong
@mrblissett Thank you. Was hoping someone would chime in with something. 👍
@leswarden
Try a fresh profile/defaults/cleaning temp files?
@georgetakei snap snap and the comments are great
@georgetakei Yeahbut that's what you and I would call "facts". Gammons don't do facts, they simply don't see them as relevant to their lives.

@georgetakei

Mr. Takei,

I asked for a Suozzi for Valentine's Day... and I Got One!

( I guess I owe @realdonaldtrump a Valentine now, huh? )

@georgetakei we need to stop playing into the trolls' hand like this. Demand that they have empirical proof of their claim.

"Earth is flat!" prove it.

@georgetakei That is a terrible argument - it presumes that there is exactly one pathway for the creation of the element lead. I do not know the various pathways to form lead, but the argument posited does not deal with that.