The appellate court gave him only 6 days to file something in the Supreme Court (I can't remember off hand what the usual time frame is but it is much longer.)

Generally nothing happens in 6 days.

Within 24 hours, the Supreme Court said that special counsel has a week to file a response. A week means they are not interested in delays.

Expect the DOJ to file early.

Why give the DOJ a chance to respond?

It makes their life easier because the opposing arguments are laid out for them.

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When people in 2021 and 2022 were demanding indictments now, I warned people that indictments are the beginning of a long harrowing process.

That is where we are now. It will never end.

People told me "once there are indictments I'll be happy because I'll know the DOJ is actually doing something."

I said, "No you won't be happy." It will be nerve wracking.

The reason: even a criminal conviction will not save democracy from the threat Trump poses.

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If you think a criminal conviction will save democracy, nothing will be harsh enough.

There is nothing that prevents a convicted person from becoming president. It would be awkward, but there is nothing in the Constitution to prevent it.

As I wrote in a recent blog post, quoting (I think) Stuart Stevens, even if Trump were to disappear tomorrow, someone would step forward to replace him and carry on what he started.

6/

If he wins and is kept off the ballot under th 14th Amendment, his Vice Presidential running mate will become president. Trump will pull the strings. (He can pull the strings from a Georgia prison)

He will select the Vice President because he'll be pulling the strings.

What matters is the election.

everything else is necessary and interesting and we need to stay informed, but we also have to keep our perspective on what matters.

7/

@Teri_Kanefield Thank you, thank you, thank you, Teri, for your voice of reason and legal explanations.
@Teri_Kanefield That's the scariest part. These ghouls will still worship the ground he walks on, even if there is irrefutable evidence, even if he outright admits it.
@Teri_Kanefield indeed. The law won't save us from Trump, nor will it save Trump from eventual accountability IF he isn't elected (and causes a different kind of constitutional crisis). We need to vote and encourage everyone we know to vote. Hopefully, against Trump.
Then we have all the time in the world to settle all these gnarly legal problems that Trump's pressure test of the system has engendered.
@Teri_Kanefield thank you Teri! I have a quick question, would not the VP pardon him so that he would be out of prison and running everything? This entire scenario is truly unbelievable!! Vote Blue! Vote Biden!

@clane22

If he is convicted in Georgia, the federal pardon power doesn't reach state convictions.

@Teri_Kanefield Running things from prison is an old Mob tradition!

@Teri_Kanefield If he wins and is kept out of office, did you mean? Or did you mean 'wins the primary'??

If he wins the general, and does not serve due to incarceration, he is constitutionally prohibited to run, ever again. So his power is gone in about 2 seconds.

@Jon_Kramer

I meant if he wins the election and then the 14th Amendment is invoked.

@Teri_Kanefield , I think that ends him. I suspect Russia calls in their loans, and he flees someplace non extradition. I think any of his current followers, aside from the obvious loons like MTG or Lake, suddenly shut up and end their support of him.

I hope we do see this final chapter, and soon.

@Teri_Kanefield

For what this lay opinion is worth, I find it extremely unlikely that another person will arise to replace Mr. Trump in His immediate aftermath.

(We've seen efforts of some others, such as Sen. Cruz; V. Ramaswamy; Gov. DeSantis—maybe even reps. MTV & Stefanik.)

The world sees but one Hitler, one Napoleon, one Stalin, etc. Other Pretenders will most-likely look Lame.

To God's ear.😐

Surely all will breathe easier now. 🤨

(($; -)}™

@Gozo @Teri_Kanefield A more conventional-appearing candidate could still implement Trump's playbook, turning the country into a presidential dictatorship and skewing things to make it nearly impossible for Democrats to ever win again. Basically the Hungarian model.

@not2b @Teri_Kanefield
Is this how it developed with Orban?

What I see here is the numerous GOP efforts to emulate Mr. Trump, and to match or to build on him. As I read the *Demagogue for President* book, subtitled, "The Rhetorical Genius...", I do so with horrified awe at Trump's "genius." One can't know the mind of such a damaged Narcissist; "why" has no answer. But others can only Try to copy him; none can answer from the hip the same way.

Or that's my dubious hope, anyway.😐

(($; -)}™

@not2b

My overriding point is that no "conventional" (in appearance or otherwise) can field all that Trump manages to field, and dish it back out, as Trump does. Others try; they usually fall short in one way or more. Can you think of another candidate, GOP or otherwise, who comes close to matching him? I can't.

I give the man less-than-zero respect, as far as being a human is concerned. But his lifetime-honed talents—his "genius" skills—are tragically impressive.😐

(($; -)}™

@Teri_Kanefield Nothing but Biden winning the election will keep Trump out of power. But each of these legal steps helps to achieve that end-by emphasizing the truth of the matter & weakening Trump. Also by strengthening the resolve of the opponents of fascism to maintain the rule of law. It's all important, but seeking a single one shot solution is insipid and lazy.
@Teri_Kanefield Honestly, the fraud litigation and the E J Carroll judgement in NY are just as important as the criminal cases as they affect Trump and his perception in the public eye.
@Teri_Kanefield Here's why I think a criminal conviction might well save democracy: about half of Republicans have said in polls that they won't vote for Trump if he is convicted of a felony. That's why it matters so much for at least one trial to conclude before the election (and yes, I know that it might not work because of a hung jury or similar). It isn't the conviction that stops him, it is the voters' reaction to the conviction that stops him. See for instance https://www.axios.com/2023/08/03/republicans-vote-trump-prison-poll-jan-6-trial
52% of Republicans won't vote for Trump if he goes to prison: poll

The charges against Trump could leave him vulnerable legally and politically.

Axios
@not2b @Teri_Kanefield I’m skeptical that there will be a trial much less a conviction before the election. No way Cannon’s going to allow the classified documents case to proceed. The Georgia case is in danger of being pushed back if the judge decides to toss Fani Willis off the case. Even if it isn’t delayed the likelihood of conviction in Fulton Co is remote. Northern Fulton Co is MAGA territory. Everything may hinge on the DC case.
@TerpieCat The J6 case could be under way in time if the SC doesn't block it for very long. Cannon's conduct has been so egregious that she might wind up getting booted from the case by the appeals court, but would that mean it has to start all over? So I don't expect anything from that one.
@Teri_Kanefield Would a convicted person that wins the Presidential election be able to pardon themself after being sworn in to office?

@jasonflory Self pardon has never been tested but most scholars think it is not constitutional.

But it doesn't really matter. If he wins, he is president. He is entitled to secret service, will have to take meetings, travel, etc.

Start doing whatever you can to make sure he doesn't win.

@Teri_Kanefield Eugene Debs ran for president while in prison.
@Teri_Kanefield There is a glimmer of hope, though, in that the GOP has actually tried to field someone like TFG even before he went into politics & certainly since, but it turns out to be really hard to find someone with just the right combination of horribleness. Utter lack of conscience is fairly easy but pre-recognition is also required. Also, super-human levels of gleeful malice & proud stupidity. Even the worst people want to be liked & falter in their horribleness in ways TFG doesn't.
@Teri_Kanefield criminal conviction will NOT save democracy. But it would put a huge nail in the coffin for Trumps re-election hopes. I get that the next republican will likely be the same as trump if not worse, the one thing I do know though is the next republican is a millions times less likely to start nuclear war than Trump would. If Trump is back in the white house again the probability of a nuclear war increases exponentially.
@Teri_Kanefield
His disappearance would still be a positive step.

@Teri_Kanefield The usual time to file an appeal would be 30 days in the DC circuit, according to https://www.dccourts.gov/court-of-appeals/how-to-appeal.

Agree with the assessment I've seen from you and others that the supreme court is unlikely to stay the trial; my own guess is that they won't take it up at all.

How to Appeal a Decision or Order to the DC Court of Appeals | District of Columbia Courts

@Teri_Kanefield I would have expected Smith to have gamed out every possible move #45's legal team to raise and have a detailed rebuttal for them all ready and waiting for yesterday's fillings. Can't wait to see the reply.