@alexisbushnell @knitting

You are not alone in your frustration. Very often I have to write out what I am to do for each line of the repeats. I need things *spelled out.* Then I check each row off as I complete it.

(Some writers of instructions are better than others. I like Rowan patterns but ohmygod they are hard for me to follow. And then patterns from the 70s, 60s, and earlier...its almost like reading code.)

@PatsyBaloney @alexisbushnell @knitting Other way 'round. Early computer languages use similar syntax to knitting patterns.

@eyrea @alexisbushnell @knitting

πŸ˜„ I stand corrected.

@PatsyBaloney @eyrea @alexisbushnell @knitting

One of my greatest joys, early in my #knittinghistory, was the realization that all #knitting patterns are algorithms.

"A finite set of unambiguous instructions which, given a set of initial conditions, performed in a prescribed sequence, result in a certain output, and the completion is identifiable as such."

The unambiguous part may sometimes be disputed.

@amgine @eyrea @alexisbushnell @knitting

I love this!
(standing ovation! πŸ’)

@amgine @PatsyBaloney @alexisbushnell @knitting Exactly. I wound up experiencing it the other way, learning how to write code as a kid a few years after I'd learned to read knitting patterns.

I realized the loops and branching were similar structures, and that the sizes and stitch counts were in arrays. In BASIC even some of the syntax is the same.

@eyrea @amgine @alexisbushnell @knitting

Someone somewhere is going to write her Thesis on this. And I want to read it.

@PatsyBaloney @amgine @alexisbushnell @knitting I'm sure they already have. In mathematics, history, computing, and who knows what else.
@eyrea @PatsyBaloney @amgine @alexisbushnell @knitting I’ve done a talk for software engineers about what they can learn from knitting pattern designers :)

@venite @PatsyBaloney @amgine @alexisbushnell @knitting Oh cool! I would have loved to hear that.

Have you seen Shirley Paden's "how to design knitwear" book? Before she got into knit design she was a software developer, and that comes out when she's explaining things like decrease rates.

@eyrea ok I NEED to have this

@venite Here's an Amazon Canada link to give you the book details

Knitwear Design Workshop: A Comprehensive Guide to Handknits by Shirley Paden (2010-03-01) https://a.co/d/iPbLh0u

Amazon.ca

@venite @eyrea @amgine @alexisbushnell @knitting

What?! Would love to have heard or read it. Is it online?

@PatsyBaloney @eyrea @amgine @alexisbushnell I think there is a recording floating around somewhere, but it’s in Dutch…