Robert E. LeeFeb 10, 2024
Mysk🇨🇦🇩🇪

This statement is from a court document submitted by Apple's lawyers regarding the App Store data privacy class action lawsuit:

"Given Apple’s extensive privacy disclosures, no reasonable user would expect that their actions in Apple’s apps would be private from Apple."

#Privacy #Security #Cybersecurity #Apple #iPhone #InfoSec #dataprivacy

Feb 10, 2024 at 1:21amWeb
Show threadezra Feb 10, 2024
@mysk ah yes. "privacy. that's apple" my beloved
Show threadTim McNamaraFeb 10, 2024
@mysk wait what
Show threadMysk🇨🇦🇩🇪Feb 10, 2024
@timClicks Yes, it's Apple's lawyers who said this. 🤯
Show threadMartin Angelo 🏳️‍🌈Feb 10, 2024
@mysk @timClicks the meaning might change if you put it back into context. What exactly is the context here? It’s a bit confusing to me....
Show threadTim McNamaraFeb 10, 2024
@elnecesario @mysk The reasonable person test in Common Law (ex British) legal systems is a way to say everybody, minus people that the legal system doesn't want to consider.
Show threadMartin Angelo 🏳️‍🌈Feb 11, 2024

@timClicks @mysk
The possible context is mentioned after the highlighting: <<(allegation that consumers "cannot be expected to know that chat conversations with customer service agents are generally recorded is objectively unreasonable").>>
Now, is your highlighted statement used in another way or is it bound to this specific situation of the allegation?

To me this reads as it’s just about chat with apple support…

Show threadMysk🇨🇦🇩🇪Feb 11, 2024

@elnecesario @timClicks No, it's about actions and interactions in Apple's apps, not support.

The full context is here:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.403685/gov.uscourts.cand.403685.122.0.pdf

Show threadrqsdFeb 10, 2024
@mysk No reasonable user would expect that their actions in Apple's apps would be private from Apple. No reasonable user would expect that their actions in Google's apps would be private from Google. No reasonable user would expect that their actions in Windows apps would be private from Microsoft.

No reasonable user would expect that their actions are private until confirmed otherwise.
Show threadSemitonesFeb 10, 2024
@mysk This rings true with my general vibe of the Apple privacy brand, which goes as follows:
1. On Android, your private information will increasingly be sold to anyone
2. On iOS, only Apple knows and uses your private information for their own purposes.
Show threadGeorge Liquor, AmericanFeb 10, 2024
@mysk I appreciate them reminding us all that *none* of these massive, datasuck corporations, not even Daddy Apple, are gonna protect your privacy or even treat you like a person
Show threadGarrettFeb 10, 2024
@mysk If anyone else wants to double check, case is here. Document 122 as shown in screenshot, "MOTION to Dismiss Consolidated Complaint; Memorandum of Points and Authorities in Support Thereof filed by Apple, Inc."
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65748302/libman-v-apple-inc/