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starfox 64a CEO can never be held accountable therefore a CEO must never make a management decision
JoYo@josh everyone is getting all worried about AI being wrong like dude fujitsu put a thousand innocent people in prison with shitty database code.
hyperreal@josh "What's the point of having a CEO, then?"
Exactly.
Exactly.
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π³π±@josh Huh? How you figure they can never be held accountable?
Fabio G.This is a paraphrase of a line from a 1979 IBM presentation. This version says βCEOβ where the original said βcomputerβ.
The 1979 version has been popular recently due to the recent advances and follies of generative AI. This version strikes a clear parallel between putting a computer in charge and putting a human in charge.
In many ways, a CEO can only be held accountable by the governing board of the company. In some ways, not even the board can hold the CEO to account.
Simon@freemo @josh the joke is CEO's never seem to be held accountable. No matter how poorly they behave or how badly they fuck up, if theres any reprocussons, at all they always seem to get a multi million dollar severance package on their way out the door while their workers and the rest of society bear the social, economic and environmental costs of their actions.
The original quote was
"A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision".
NathanI prove my identity online intentionally, im far from anonymous. Considering I worked in the public sector and just recently had fired a CEO you can very trivially both 1) prove my identity through the proofs I provide on my profile 2) confirm the CEO was let go through the public record since it was a public company.
who holds you accountable, by the way?
Oh thats easy, the public (thus why they are called public companies).
I posted my proofs to keyoxide which verifies my identity as well as directly proves my association with at least one such public company.
You can then check the public records which all public companies post to the sec. It is clearly on record as board resolutions that I recently called the CEO of the company out for fraud in a board meeting, got him fired, and he is dealing with authorities now.
You are probably looking at the wrong company. We are regulated by the ISA not the SEC. I am referring to scentech-medical & NextGen. You'll want the board resulutions to see it.
Hoo boy.
Anyway. The ISA's website flat out refuses to load for meβapparently, it's blocked outside Israel. So i suppose we'll have to take your word for it.
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Freemo is a coked out βlibertarianβ
@freemo you have this backwards. How do YOU figure they can ever be held accountable? Just FYI, golden parachutes are not accountability, and neither is a stay Club Fed, after which they return to mansions and mistresses.
@davidfetter Oh thats simple. I've literally held them accountable on multiple occasions. I have had to fire and/or punish CEOs on quite a few occasions.
Proof by counter-example.
@freemo Name two.
@freemo it's now been over a day since you alleged you "had to" do this pretty nebulous thing.
I'm just gonna put it out there that I asked you to name them for specific reasons, to wit:
- The obvious one, i.e. put up or shut up, and
- One slightly less obvious in this dystopian hellscape, namely that accountability and anonymity are opposites. If you're not allowed to say who they are, they were NOT held accountable, no matter what other things you try to insinuate happened without actually describing them.
@davidfetter Dude I have 33K followers.. a LOT of posts slip by me or I forget. I apologize for not responding. I totally forgot about you asking.
I could legally mention their names, I'm just not sure if legally that would be troublesome. That said, you could easily find out by just looking at my website, see the companies I was a board member on and looking at their public data. Resolutions I've called ro firing CEO's or otherwise holding them accountable will not be hard to find attached to my record serving on public boards.
I can help point you to the relevant tools if you need help.
@freemo so you're agreeing that you are unable to put up. d0 y0uR 0wn r3s34rc|-| isn't putting up.
You're the one making the extraordinary claim. You're the one who actually has to trot out the extraordinary evidence for it.
I dont mind necceseraly putting up. But as long as I dont have to go into detail its on public record so shouldnt be a problem.
Two names that come to mind are Harel Hirshtik and Lew Bloch, both CEOs i've manage to get to hold accountable and fired them as well.
@josh he/she has to be impeached & convicted first!
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cyplo@josh well sad to inform you but they almost never do
Generation Zen@josh workers will just have to run things then ;)
OmnivoreThat's easy. Delegate all decision making and punish any mistakes.
Curioso π πΊπ¦ (jgg)Raising the CEO's salary is a management decision?
JH@josh This is approximately how Britain became a democracy
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@josh has it escaped your attention that corporations are quite literal structures whose entire purpose is impunity? What else could the euphemism, "limited liability," i.e. the thing all varieties of incorporation are based on, actually refer to?
Michael van Niekerk π¦ βοΈ β@josh In South Africa you do have a term called reckless trading, that if it is proven then people can claim losses from the managerial corps privately via a claim against the company.
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volkris@josh CEOs are held accountable all the time. Lots are fired, lose their pay, get sued, etc.