Man, House really got out of pocket

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Man, House really got out of pocket - Lemmy.World

God I miss House
I miss Lisa Edelstein’s cleavage
Me too……me too…
Did you enjoy Omar Epps’?
That stripper scene… Good glory.
I still remember watching an interview with him only after watching the entire series and how mind blowing it was to be that he was English.
Wasn’t he well known in the US before House? I mean… Blackadder?
Fry and Laurie is good too

Nah, blackadder didn’t really reach household name status here. About the only british shows that’re at that level are dr who and Monty Python. Fawlty towers, abfab, red dwarf, blackadder and others tend to be more niche. Hell, we had versions of shameless, the office, and queer as folk, and people don’t really realize they are copies (with varying degrees of similarity to the originals).

I can’t recall if blackadder was even on BBC America or not, but I don’t recall seeing it on there back when we had cable.

I think PBS, or some channel ( Maybe TCM? Can’t remember.) would show it along with the others and Are You Being Served. My grandfather and I used to watch them together all time.
Definitely PBS, I used to love watching Are You Being Served?. :) it’s how I learned the word “ Haberdashery”!
Yeah, I think that’s maybe why it didn’t spread as far. Back in my younger days, PBS in specific was much bigger because it was typically one of four or five channels. So when it ran Dr Who and Python, there was a greater chance of it being watched per household. By the time some of the other shows came to the US, cable was fully ensconced as the primary access to television. More channels, less chance of a given one being on at a time.
Blackadder wasn’t, but Waiting for God, and Keeping up Appearances were
I’m pretty sure all the niche ones aired on my local PBS station, though we did have BBC America as well.

shamless

As a proud Mancunian I refuse to watch the US version. You can’t take Manchester out of Shameless!! Pretty much all the characters in Shameless go one-for-one to members of my family.

I’ve heard that before.

Tbh though, I was super doubtful I would like it at all, having loved the original. And the US version did lose some in translation. But it was, until the last season or so, a good show on its own, despite being not the same thing at heart. I don’t think a show line the US shameless would translate well if it had been the original, though. Both are pretty vivid snapshots of the places they’re set in, which is the way that the US version succeeded. You ever meet people from that area, you’ll hear stories like on the show.

I’ve got family up there in middle yankee land that aren’t so far off from some of the American Frank’ kids.

Not gonna lie though, the original did make me decide to make sure I was never, ever gong to go to Manchester lol.

Before house I knew him from 101 dalmatians and Stuart little.
Jeeves and Wooster ftw
I had heard/read that his commitment to the cain limp walk fucked up his gait in real life and caused him some issues lol. How awful
Happen to the actress in ER too. She walked with a limp in that show and it fucked her up.

He was quite well known in England. Fry and Laurie, Blackadder, etc.

The one that gets me is Dominic West. I saw him in The Wire first, and every time after I’m like “that’s a decent English accent he’s doing there. Oh wait.”

I suspect I’m going to be the same with Shiv and Tom from Succession.

Dominic West.

Full name: Dominic Gerard Francis Eagleton West - fuck me! 😂

Prescribing Cigarettes To Father Christmas | House M.D.

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My IBS/Gastritis/thefuckIknow sometimes gets better after smoking on the weekend.
And here is how he learned about the benefits of cigarettes: youtu.be/XewVicFzRxw
A Bit Of Fry And Laurie - S01E04 - Doctor Tobacco

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I rewatched recently and while there is a lot that’s dated as hell the show in general does hold up
What are some things you’d call dated? Genuine curiosity, it’s been a while since I saw some episodes.
I’d just say the general outlook of the show is a very white male point of view. It’s still a good show but you can tell it was made in a specific period because of the conversations
The main character is a white male…why wouldn’t it strongly feature his point of view?
Not at all what I meant. All of the characters regardless of their gender or ethnicity are coming from that point of view. Again still a good show and I am a white male but it’s a bit tone deaf on some things I would expect someone as smart as House to be aware of, and they likely would’ve included that were the show made today and not 2003

Huh. Cutty and foreman in particular really openly disagree with…almost everything house opines on, and call him out often. Infact even other white males like Wilson are pretty clear they find his speech and actions inappropriate

Edit: did I lie?

And yet House keeps his job and continues practicing despite his constant extremely inappropriate conduct.
Yeah cause he’s the main character
A couple of other characters complaining means absolutely nothing when the main character is constantly rewarded for his behaviour by the narrative.
Again, he’s the main character. I already addressed that. Not uncommon for the narrative to both reward, and challenge the main character.
You’re treating that as a magic word that reflects all criticism. Being the main character doesn’t mean he should be immune to any and all consequences of his actions without ever having to change and improve as a person.

“You’re fired for inappropriate medical conduct, illegal activity (breaking and entering, etc.), substance abuse, harassment, and littering.”

Show ends after the pilot episode. Is that what you’re looking for?

I mean I’d also take him undergoing some actual improvement as a person, but sure that would be better than him constantly getting away with being a horrible person and it being hand-waved with “he’s just too good to lose” never mind how badly he would tank the reputation of the hospital and would be more of a liability than an asset even with his talent.
Oh but that’s not nearly as dramatic as prescribing Santa cigarettes for the shots, or letting a minor teenager get pre-sexual with him. The audience must have their fix! ARE THEY NOT ENTERTAINED‽
The cell phones are pretty ancient flippers.
“what’s this ih-pod?” Always gets a guffaw out of me
Most episodes featuring queer people, to start.

The whole show outside of the barely plausible medical drama is about how awful House is as a human.

At every opportunity they go out of their way to spell out how horrible he is. He’s an egomaniacal drug addict with daddy issues and a borderline pedophile.

The most fun thing watching the show is counting the number of crimes he commits an episode.

If I had to choose between you and House though… Sorry bro, it’s entertaining TV.

I’m not saying it’s a bad show, quite the opposite.

People who don’t grasp that he’s a terrible person but a great character just annoy me.

Probably the same people who look up to Rick Sanchez.
Pedophile??

There’s an episode where a teenage girl is into him and he is quite obviously interested.

Other characters “get in the way” and stop him from doing anything but the intent was there.

Well she was a 17 year old, dressed as an adult and was trying to seduce house. And house does the right thing by diagnosing her instead of taking advantage of her.

Im not interested in quibbling over details, she was clearly represented as being under age and all parties knew it.

House does the right thing only after being whipped by Cutty.

House does the right thing only after being whipped by Cutty.

Ehh he was already sort of aware when she asks why him why he thinks she likes him.

The gist of that episode was more that House was curious as to why she took a liking to him and knew that it’d push everyone’s buttons so he let her.

House was clearly just messing with everybody. He repeatedly rebuffs her advances. The only part properly creepy is the scene in the parking lot when the girl is leaving and has her jeans so low that her underwear is exposed and house openly leers at that. The rest of it is him just being flattered.

A far more better example of pedo like behaviour is the episode where they treat the teenage supermodel

No, you are just over eager to slap the pedo label on someone even when people are explaining why it isn’t correct.
I haven’t seen all the episodes but I think the underlying point was he is an asshole with actual good intentions underneath. Like he doesn’t care about the BS of being friendly, he just wants to get down to business of helping people.
Most of the time he didn’t even have good intentions though. What motivated him more than anything was being right about everything. His ego always took precedence to anything else.
It wasn’t about helping people, it was about finding the solution to puzzles and proving that his solution was right. If that just happened to involve helping people, so be it.
No there are times he has genuinely helped people for no other reason than it was the right thing to do. Wilson puts it best when he says house is an asshole but a noble one
Is rare that he’s not used in memes as the Joker, American Psycho or the guy from picky blinders.