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Federico Viticci

Apple has announced some SWEEPING changes coming to the App Store in the EU with iOS 17.4:

- Alternative app marketplaces
- 0% commission for apps sold outside the App Store, with 0% commission on alternative payment methods (!)
- Third-party browser engines now allowed (!!)
- Game streaming now allowed on the App Store

We have an extensive summary of all the changes on MacStories, with more to come shortly: https://www.macstories.net/news/apple-details-how-it-plans-to-comply-with-the-eus-digital-markets-act/

Apple Details How It Plans to Comply with the EU’s Digital Markets Act

Today, Apple announced how it intends to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA), which the European Commission says applies to the App Store. There are a lot of details to cover, but in summary, radical change is coming to the EU App Store, but only in the EU. Let’s take a look at how

Federico Viticci

Apple is also reducing its App Store commission to 17% (or 10% for discounted rate program). They are also introducing:

- Third-party NFC payments
- Third-party payment methods on the App Store
- A new screen for picking your default browser
- Data portability for your App Store history
- Notarization for iOS apps

https://www.macstories.net/news/apple-details-how-it-plans-to-comply-with-the-eus-digital-markets-act/

Apple Details How It Plans to Comply with the EU’s Digital Markets Act

Today, Apple announced how it intends to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA), which the European Commission says applies to the App Store. There are a lot of details to cover, but in summary, radical change is coming to the EU App Store, but only in the EU. Let’s take a look at how

Federico Viticci

And iOS 17.4 beta is now out!

Federico Viticci

Whatever you think of the EU and its policies, it's hard not to see these changes as a massive win for European users and developers.

More choice, more apps now possible, more money to be made. There are risks involved, but thanks to notarizarion, they should be mitigated – like they have been on macOS for years.

Thank you, EU, for forcing this change. And thank you Apple for listening and building an extensive set of features to do the right thing.

https://www.macstories.net/news/apple-details-how-it-plans-to-comply-with-the-eus-digital-markets-act/

Apple Details How It Plans to Comply with the EU’s Digital Markets Act

Today, Apple announced how it intends to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA), which the European Commission says applies to the App Store. There are a lot of details to cover, but in summary, radical change is coming to the EU App Store, but only in the EU. Let’s take a look at how

Federico Viticci

...so...

What do I do with my fake US App Store account now? 😂

Jorge León Jan 25, 2024

@viticci don’t worry about it, you still need it for the Vision Pro.

kfet Jan 25, 2024

@viticci I do know what *I* will be doing with my dormant EU app store account 😀 So glad I didn't nuke it after moving to NA!

Tombaroo Jan 25, 2024

@viticci wow, was definitely not expecting them to go that far

Robert Petersen

@viticci Only in the EU? For fucks sake. It’s kinda ridiculous how much they’re refusing to admit this ship has sailed.

It’s going to be everywhere eventually. They know this. Dragging heels isn’t helping anyone.

https://techhub.social/@Sonikku/111817908894195661

Robert Petersen :pacman: (@[email protected])

Only in the EU? For fucks sake. It’s kinda ridiculous how much they’re refusing to admit this ship has sailed. It’s going to be everywhere eventually. They know this. Dragging heels isn’t helping anyone.

TechHub

Chuck Jan 25, 2024

@Sonikku @viticci I would expect they'll drag their feet in every single market until forced. From their side of the table, every side load is money out of their wallets.

Daron Brewood 🇬🇧Jan 25, 2024

@viticci Hmm I wonder if this will include the UK?

Luke Channings Jan 25, 2024

@tekguru @viticci why would it? We've got our sovrintea now.

Daron Brewood 🇬🇧Jan 25, 2024

@lukechannings @viticci And a great bloody mistake that was too :)

Nfoonf Jan 25, 2024

@tekguru @viticci no. DMA is not UK Regulation.

Daron Brewood 🇬🇧Jan 25, 2024

@Nfoonf @viticci Aye it doesn't alas. It'd have been nice to get rid of Webkit in third party browsers.

Alex R Jan 25, 2024

@tekguru @viticci not yet, I assume – the relevant UK legislation is still awaiting its final reading in the Lords, IIRC, and then the relevant regulators have to actually designate Apple as holding significant market power. It’s quite hard to imagine them not doing so, though

Daron Brewood 🇬🇧Jan 25, 2024

@alex @viticci Aye I’m hoping it'll get there eventually.

Karl Baron Jan 26, 2024

@tekguru The DMA is new legislation that came after Brexit so no, it’s only for EU countries

Daron Brewood 🇬🇧Jan 26, 2024

@kalleboo Ah thanks for clarifying. Darn.

Orion Edwards Jan 26, 2024

@tekguru @viticci LOL no. Those muppets voted themselves out of the benefits of being in the EU

Daron Brewood 🇬🇧Jan 26, 2024

@borland @viticci yep alas.

jeffscott Jan 25, 2024

@viticci Very good start! Now Canada needs to get its act together.

Andreas Hausberger Jan 25, 2024

@viticci sometimes, the EU fucking rocks.

@viticci is this April fools day already?

Elias Mårtenson Jan 25, 2024

@codemonkeymike @viticci There are certain Apple bloggers who I think may struggle to explain how this is bad for users.

This particular quote is telling:

The standard App Store commission for apps sold in the App Store will drop to 17%

Imagine that, competition, even before competition has even opened up is good for everybody.

piofthings Jan 25, 2024

@viticci and they say regulations don’t work!

Thomas Michael Semmler Jan 25, 2024

@viticci is this real? 🥹

Bret Mogilefsky Jan 25, 2024

@nachtfunke @viticci https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/01/apple-announces-changes-to-ios-safari-and-the-app-store-in-the-european-union/

Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store in the European Union

Apple announced changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store impacting developers’ apps in the EU to comply with the DMA.

Apple Newsroom

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@viticci hope people like a Chrome monoculture.

phi1997 Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk
There will also be the real Firefox readily available.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@phi1997 irrelevant. Due to this stupidity 99% will choose Chrome and the independent web is gone.

Richard 🔶UK #RejoinEU Jan 25, 2024

@phi1997 @jimmyjamesuk I already use Firefox on iOS

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@rpin42 @phi1997 sure but it’s still WebKit underneath.

Richard 🔶UK #RejoinEU Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk @phi1997 mind blown 🤯

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk @viticci EU is comming after that too.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 they should have done it first.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk I am sorry the EU has not your personal priorities at heart. I encourage you to vote for an EU political party which prioritzes google demonopolisation over apple demonopolisation. More power to you though!

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 big fan of the eu generally. I do think this is a misstep however. It only entrenches Chromes monopoly and now sites will be able to say ”just install Chrome”.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk In the EU, you don't believe that Apple will roll that out globally. Dp you?

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 it’s absolutely a matter of time.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk As is Google being nerfed

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 I hope your correct, I suspect you aren’t. How are they going to stop web devs only supporting Blink?

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk You seem to be moving the goal post or we seem to be talking about different things.

Everyone using blink isn't a monopoly thing. Google pushing chrome through illegal/anti-competive things and knee capping ad blockers through API changes is a monopoly thing.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 Chrome/blink is absolutely a monopoly thing

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk Googles control over Chrome/Blink is. But i would need to see some strong argumentaent that Chrome/Blink itself is a monopoly thing.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 Google used their search dominance to promote and push chrome on the most popular webpage on the Internet. This allowed them to iterate on features extremely quickly without consulting any standards bodies. They then encouraged web devs to adopt these features to the detriment of other rendering engines, which were much more inclined to take a consultative approach. Now most devs don’t like to deal with anything other than blink.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk
That is something that the EU can go after Google for.
> Google used their search dominance

That might be bad but is not a monopoly thing
> Now most devs don’t like to deal with anything other than blink.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 yes it is. It doesn’t matter how much they go after search dominance. The damage is done and the only thing that is currently keeping Safari and Firefoxvas generally compatible with the web, is iOS being WebKit only.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk How is Blink (an open source project) being widespread a problem or "damage"?

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk like libcurl is used a lot, how would that be a problem?

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 I already explained. It has created a monoculture. Web devs don’t want to support anything other than blink. Google does not support the cooperative process of standard setting. Are you a web dev?

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk
Google control over Blink and them alligning it with their buisiness interests is something monopoly relevant.

Blink being used a lot or the only maintained implementation of an html renderer is not. People can build browser on top of blink. This provides user choice.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 lol. Blink or blink. Awesome. Try and be less transparent. Are yours web dev?

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk
Okay. First off i don't owe you any information. Second you don't seem to be engaging with any arguments and seem unable to explain your reasoning. Third
i've done desktop apps which used blink. Not sure if that makes me a web dev or not. But i dislike front-end.

Dima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱Jan 25, 2024

@jimmyjamesuk @freemin7 Apple will react by bringing Safari to other OSs, cause it can.

James Atkinson Jan 25, 2024

@dimpase that isn’t happening.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@dimpase @jimmyjamesuk I find that unlikely.

Dima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 @jimmyjamesuk that's one of the few things Apple can do to prevent total googlisation of the net and maOS/iOS, something which would rob them of $$.

Johann-Tobias Schäg Jan 25, 2024

@dimpase @jimmyjamesuk Apple is not interested in this. They stopped supporting Safari for windows.

Dima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱Jan 25, 2024

@freemin7 @jimmyjamesuk Apple *was* not interested.

@viticci and of course it’s only in the eu