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Oh. Good. I’d gone a few minutes without doing this mental check, thank you for putting it back in there for today. 🫠

Me: I need to leave this community. What if these memes are just making me think I have ADHD when I don’t.

Also me on literally every meme that’s posted here: haha, hard rel8

All these ADHD memes have several times made me think if there’s a light version?

But from what I understand everyone can experience ADHD “symptoms” from time to time, but people who are diagnosed with it have symptoms that are several orders of magnitude more intense.

I’m gonna sound like a broken record here but my favorite thing is:

Everyone pees but when you pee 60 times a day you go see a doctor

Not diagnosed till late 20s.

I’m “twice gifted”, so my intelligence can help me mask my ADHD in some ways. Looking back, all… ALL the signs were there, but no one was looking, or just didn’t understand. Lots of “you just need to apply yourself” kind of shit.

Anyway, check out Russell Barkley, if you’ve got a thing for educational videos, his are interesting enough, I feel, since he’s talking about me.

He made me feel a lot more confident that I have it, despite 3 different psychs already agreeing I do… and made me feel a lot more comfortable with who I am.

You could get a real diagnose maybe?
I would but I can’t just seem to be able to get to it for some mysterious reason.
After about a year, I got as far as finding a psychiatrist that specializes in it and used the contacts form on his webpage to ask whether he also diagnoses adults, never got a reply so another year and there will be some progress

getting a real diagnose in my country means ill be stuck with a mental disability in an extremely psychophobic society with no way to treat it because all adhd meds are banned here

so my only way to cope is to talk to other people who probably have adhd as well and learn how they manage their lives

I was diagnosed as a kid, lost my childhood medical records (no clue how, but it was before I was an adult, I had to be revaccinated when I went through basic), so had to go through it again as an adult.

Yeah, they don’t just… give people diagnoses. They don’t even like screening all that much because there are drug seekers, so they put you off. You have to work at finding someone willing to do it, and that’s in the best case.

I was going through a super straightforward route (through the VA) and that still took a 6 month wait before we could start the process, 5 probing mental health appointments, and then the actual diagnosis appointment. In total it took about a year, and again, that was an easy and straightforward route.

Hi, person with high-functioning autism here. I was informed by a therapist that, due to the coping mechanisms most people learn as they grow up with conditions like these, they are incredibly difficult (if not impossible in some cases) to get an official diagnosis for.

My experience may not be relevant in this case but due to the overlap between autism and ADHD, it seemed relevant enough to share.

They wont let me because I use drugs but I cant go 3 months without drugs because I need cope with my consentration problems to study. And no these symptons are not because of the drugs I’ve had them since kids but I kinda lousy parenting so no one investigated
Yeah been there, done that, didn’t help. Now what?
Remember watching a video like a year ago about how intelligent people with ADHD do at school and it was like a 17 minute video and it was like the guy was talking about me the whole time, but you know, maybe it’s just a coincidence

… reading this wondering the same thing as I lay here in bed not wanting to get up and scrolling mindlessly on Lemmy….

Nope I should get up and take my meds … I’m a dufus.

“What if I don’t actually have ADHD, I simply share some behavioral issues that make it seem like ADHD because I was raised by parents who did have ADHD and I just kind of adopted it from them?” - Me, like once a week since getting diagnosed.
If it helps, ADHD has a heritability of 77-88% according to one study. That’s on par with height.
Genetics of ADHD: What Should the Clinician Know?

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) shows high heritability in formal genetic studies. In our review article, we provide an overview on common and rare genetic risk variants for ADHD and their link to clinical practice.The formal heritability ...

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I’m like the tallest person in my family, too. I wonder if the grandpa on my mom’s side I never met had it, too (it’s where I supposedly get my height) 🤔
I’m not officially diagnosed yet, so this is where I live.
Getting diagnosed is a joke. Literally took 10 minutes. They don’t verify or go into depth about anything. At least it was that way for me. They gave me adderall but it made me feel like a crackhead so I only used it for a month. Vynase was better but still didn’t end up liking it too much. These days I let Jesus take the wheel.

Yep, this. I read an article recently how COVID h showed a sharp rise in telehealth, and ADHD diagnosis counts also shot up with it. Half the article made me feel like an imposter, where it was just a 30min video consult before being diagnosed/medication was discussed, but honestly that’s fine. I was not looking for a therapist, I was reasonably sure I had it, I had the signs since I was a child but no one did anything about it. I ended up seeing a PA, who asked me the questions and ultimately let me know what I had a strong feeling was already the case. She does consult with the doctors, and I’m pretty low-demand from a patient standpoint.

I just hope that this surge in diagnosis doesn’t cause some major problem later on. I know there’s an end-of-year thing about having to see an in-person doctor every 6 months, but I haven’t heard anything from my provider.

Hmm. Not what they’re prepping me for. Have a 1 hour telehealth the day before to go over what I will be doing and how I should I prepare, then the day of the in-person appointment they told me to make sure I had 4 hours available. So… Dunno yet. 10 minutes seems like bullshit considering lol.

What if I don’t have ADHD and just smoke entirely too much weed? Currently working on figuring this out.

My next will be: Maybe I’m just a douche and don’t care about others enough to remember what they tell me. But I do care, I think.

Hahaha - this is my train of thought too! Didn’t smoke for the month of November as an experiment. Started dreaming vividly, but no improvement in my awake state.

I’m assuming a 1-month break probably wasn’t enough for my brain to re-build neural connections… but how long of a break is! Maybe I’ll try again?

How are you ‘figuring this out’?

I needed to give up weed for a while for a hormone test. A month is exactly how long I had to take a break.

I’ve had an almost identical experience, stopped smoking last year for less than a month. Terrible dreams that left me exhausted during the day, and if anything worsened ADHD symptoms. I’m also thinking it wasn’t long enough but it sure is a tough experiment.

Figuring it out just meant I’m trying again now.

It takes 30 days to detox from weed entirely. So a month is the minimum, personally I’ve found I don’t start noticing improvement until I’ve been sober for about three months, because sleep gets messed up for longer than it takes to detox. You have to go all the way through the withdrawal symptoms until you’re sleeping healthily again, then you’ll start to notice improvements in life. Small, incremental improvements.
Welcome to the gang. The natural follow up question then is that if it indeed is weed then which is worse; the ADHD-like symptoms or living without weed.

which is worse; the ADHD-like symptoms or living without weed.

Good point! I’ve made my decision, now where did I put my bong?

For some reason, the substance abuse genes skipped me, though it runs in the family. I have very firm rules on over indulging on weed. I have thankfully never had an alcohol problem and “failed” miserably at nicotine addiction. Hell, I somehow tested negative a couple months ago for weed when my doctor had to do his required Adderall confirmation test, and he tests at 10, instead of 20 or 50. If my depression ever gets the better of me and I feel like I am overdoing it to cope, I just stop for a while.

Finding the right strains that play well with my body and head can be a challenge at times. How do other people figure that out or deal with it? I have severe muscular issues and getting muscle spasms is rough. Or worse, it makes me hyper aware of the pain that I usually ignore. I have one or two that actually help with the pain some, but I can’t always get those. Freak Show is probably my favorite for that and it puts me in a good mood too.

This honestly is so validating to know that other ADHD havers are extreme self medicators. Blazeit.

Maybe I’m just a douche and don’t care about others enough to remember what they tell me. But I do care, I think.

This is also me but since people in general still seem to like me despite me considering myself a bit of an asshole I’m then also wondering that maybe I’m just a charismatic psychopath that manipulates people.

It doesn’t help that every asshole on the Internet suddenly has a psychology degree to tell you you don’t actually have ADHD/autism.
I know autism is a scale but if someone actually had it you would know. My kid was diagnosed at 3 and it’s an entirely different ballgame. I have three other kids for reference.
Like you said, it’s a spectrum. Your kids high support needs don’t invalidate those of us who have lower support needs and have been masking our entire lives.
It’s also hilarious how I mention it and one immediately shows up
What symptoms do you think you have that make you feel you are autistic?
The literal diagnosis of autism from my fucking psychologist you absolute troglodyte

It’s very difficult to actually get “diagnosed” with autism. You and I may have some of the similarities of some of the traits but it’s not even close to what a kid with diagnosed autism actually has. Most don’t talk, don’t understand any social cues and they destroy everything in the house.

If it makes you feel better being self diagnosed on the fringe of the spectrum to make you feel better, more power to ya.

Bring on the downvotes - you all simply have no idea.

What’s wrong with you?

You understand it’s a spectrum but you’re claiming that unless someone needs heavy support they’re faking it? Fuck any diagnosed kids then if they’re not heavily autistic.

It’s literally this attitude that keeps so many people from getting a diagnosis and receiving any help they might need. This attitude makes people think “Oh im not the perfect model *insert neurodivergency*, I don’t want to take away resources from anyone else, I’ll just cope for the rest of my life and go on living like this wondering why I feel so different than other people”

Respectfully, fuck you.

Actually fuck that you don’t deserve my respect.

The meme you’re responding to exists because of your attitude and people like you.

When I read your comment the first time and saw the “respectfully” I thought, wow, you are more polite than have been x) it made me chuckle to see you reconsider (rightfully, in my opinion).
As someone diagnosed after much fighting in my thirties who still has every new doc trying to tell me I can’t have it: fuck you. People like you are the reason no one believes the people who are skilled in masking because they got abused enough as kids so they don’t even knowwho they are underneath the mask.
Ugh, self appointed internet psychiatrists are the worst. I’ve been told so many times I don’t have things I am diagnosed with. All because I won’t give a random internet stranger enough proof. Or because apparently it’s impossible for a doctor to cause trauma.

I absolutely love this take and I can relate.

In reality though, it’s possible, but Occam’s Razor would have us disagree. And a pragmatic take on all that would be: does it matter, especially if treatment and coping mechanisms also work in both cases?

Also, as a fellow ADHD-er I strongly believe that diagnosis is not an excuse; it merely explains how and why. Responsibility still lies with the afflicted regardless, with an ethical responsibility towards others for those that are self-aware.

I got diagnosed with it and my little brother did as well. Trying to get my dad to get diagnosed but he hates doctors.
i was diagnosed early in childhood. my parents chose to believe it was fake and more than once actually pleaded with me to explain why beating me senseless every other day didn’t make the behavior stop.
Fucking hell sorry your parents were abusive monsters.
oh they still are, mom likes to work “subtle” transphobia into every single conversation so she can act like a victim when I point it out, and my dad told me in so many words to go fuck my freeloading self for wanting to crash his guest room and stop being lazy and sensitive when I found myself unemployable and facing homelessness after moving to be closer to family after my wife took her own life and my living situation fell through. good christian folks you know?
Damn that is so fucked up, and I am so sorry to hear that. That family doesn’t deserve you. I hope you find your true family someday.
I am very lucky to have landed in a lovely and accepting community where people truly care about each other, and as a bonus the landscape is jawdroppingly beautiful, so at least a there was a good outcome at the end of it. The US South is no place for anyone who isn’t cis, het, white, male, nominally “Christian” in a way that would absolutely shock Jesus of Nazereth to his core, and neurotypical, and it’s mindblowing to me how much better my general mental state is just for being away from that culture.
Fuck them, I’m so sorry for you
Jesus fucking Christ, your parents are the worst. I’m sorry man.
and this is why i have a profund desire to start a commune that just freely gives people housing and spaghetti, no questions asked
What the hell. That sounds painful. I know it’s not much, but at least accept my virtual hugs if that’s worth anything.
I thought this a couple of years ago, even though i was diagnosed at 5 (29 now). It’s funny how i went my whole life thinking it was just the stereotypical adhd is just hyperactivity and laziness because the doctors never really tried to explain how this disorder could affect me. I decided to look it up studf about adhd and am deeply conflicted by how it literally explains my entire life and behaviors even though i thought i had it under control. On one hand im glad there is something that explains a lot of my struggles and medical issues but on the other i feel like my entire personality is just dictated by adhd and that i never really had as much freedom of choice as i thought i did.

I feel like the more you understand how your brain works, the more you learn how to work around it.

Full disclosure: I’m not diagnosed, but on a waitlist for ADD - for over a year now and it’s not moving, but I digress. I am diagnosed with autism though.

To me it feels like my brain is a wildwater. You can’t control it, but if you change the environment around it, you can guide it into useful directions. I’m lucky that by now the people around me have accepted it and are able to laugh with me when I fuck up. We have a lot of systems in place to reign in the worst effects, and the more we get used to it the easier it gets not to fall into traps and not to be unreliable.

I guess I’m working on my skills as a mindbender who tricks my brain into being useful while still allowing it to get that dopamine?

Oh i know this one. You’re arguing with your brain, right? Like it’s telling you all sorts of wrong shit, but generally you catch it before you say anything silly, like North is South, etc, and this is easier when you’re not tired or after a couple cups of coffee?

More like sweettalking it? Like, brain is impulsive and wants instant gratification, and I’m like, “but if we finish this before, we could have this!” since I’m trying to set up my life in a way that I can coax my impulses into something productive.

I don’t think my brain tells me much wrong shit. More like “wouldn’t it be fun to tip this precariously stacked thing over and watch the chaos unfold…?” But I usually have a pretty good handle on this x)

I guess it’s more setting up everything so the impulses go a productive way instead of them scattering. And bribing the brain x)