“Subscription” doesn’t feel like an accurate word for all the stuff we subscribe to.

When you cancel a magazine subscription, Time doesn’t come and take all the issues back.

When you cancel a Hulu subscription, you can’t watch the show for which you’ve been paying for months or years.

Do you like your Spotify library? Hope you’re ok with paying for it for the rest of your life.

What do we call these? “Service plans”? “Rentscriptions”?

With the #Bandcamp “subscriptions” I mentioned in my last post, you get to keep the records!

I would 1000% become a $20/mo subscriber to Merge or Thrill Jockey on Bandcamp if it meant I got to keep everything released during my subscription period.

Pause the subscription when money is tight, miss out on a few releases, then resubscribe when and if I’m able to again.

@jsit I would subscribe to Thrill Jockey if it got Tortoise to release a new album.

@jsit The realisation that Audible is actually a decent subscription in terms of being able to retain the media "purcahsed" when the plan is active.

Does seem that every time I run out of books to listen to, I re-sub and usually get successive good deals so that I can usually come away with a trilogy.

@jsit Just to add, because I realise there is some positive sentiment around this, I am cognizant that if Audibe shuts down, my purchases go away and they aren't purchases of media but just a licence to access the media.

My backup plan for *all* of my media is piracy.

The reason I don't pirate audiobooks is because I've tried it and it sucks compared to Audible. If Plex had a decent audiobook feature I might use that, but they barely have a good video playback feature at the moment.

@digitalstefan @jsit I use Libro.fm for my audio books lately. Not sure if the price is as good as Audible's, and exclusivety agreements might keep some books off, but at least they give me a DRM-free file I can listen to in perpetuity, even if license agreements change or the company goes under.

EDIT: spelling

@avghelper @jsit Thanks. That's a great recommendation. Most of the books by Peter F Hamilton are there.

I'll give it a proper look when I get through my current book.

@avghelper @digitalstefan @jsit Also a fan of Libro.fm! My primary-school-aged kids got gifted annual memberships for Christmas— we're audiobook fans here and they enjoy listening to the same stories on repeat with new books thrown into the mix. Their stories are now downloaded and offline on their own MP3 players so they can control their own media, and also on the USB stick in the car, and on my phone. And supporting local bookshops, too!

@digitalstefan Looks like there are some iOS apps for “bring your own audiobook” audiobook playback:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bookplayer/id1138219998

BookPlayer App - App Store

Download BookPlayer by Gianni Carlo on the App Store. See screenshots, ratings and reviews, user tips, and more games like BookPlayer.

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@digitalstefan And whoa, look! Audiobooks for Plex:

https://prologue.audio

The best (and possibly only) audiobook app for Plex.

@jsit Holy moly! That's a great find! Thankyou 😍

I think I have some mp3's of some books from a feew years ago. Will definitely investigate.

@digitalstefan @jsit You can also download and decrypt the AAX files from Audible and keep those. The programs to do this are called Inaudible and Libation.
@digitalstefan @jsit They're m4b files in that case, which is m4a, AAC, with chapters. ITunes supports this natively, and audiobook apps for iOS at least likely do as well. There are probably some for Android that do as well, as it's just an extension of the same m4a that everybody can already read. Foobar2000 on Windows breaks each chapter into a playlist item.
@digitalstefan @jsit If you have the keys, FFmpeg can also do it, although I'm unsure how one gets it to chapterize in that case, so I just use these programs which leverage FFmpeg and mp4box and whatever API to do it for me.
@digitalstefan I’ve been playing around with this on my Plex server and it works pretty great! Definitely recommend it.
@digitalstefan Found this one too if you're still curious: https://www.bookcamp.app/
Audiobooks for Plex — Bookcamp

Gather all your audiobooks in a single app. Enjoy unlimited storage and streaming on any device, anywhere.

@digitalstefan @jsit I use ListenBook to listen to mp3 and mp4 on my iphone and it’s solid.
@jsit at one point I was paying $70+ per month for subscriptions to labels like Ghostly, Polyvinyl, Domino, Stones Throw, etc. on drip.fm. Worth so much more than Spotify, et al.
@thomnottom Oh wow, I’d never heard of that one. Crazy.

@jsit It was a great service - came out around the time eMusic really went down hill. Kickstarter tried to save it and then (much to my anger) deleted the entire site when the money didn't work out. A lot of discography data was lost.

As someone with 1000s of albums in his library, I've got a lot I could say about music "ownership" vs "rental."

@jsit I recall back in the 00’s a service that did something similar to Audible — access the entire libarary while you’re a member + x number of songs to download and “keep.” Maybe Zune? Still, being encumbered with DRM, you never actually own it. Maybe if Spotify mailed one CD per month :-)
@jsit or even more modest than that, permanent access to anything you accessed during your subscription
@jsit Protection/Extortion racket. "Nice movie/album/etc. you have there. Would be a shame if something happened to it."
@jsit I like "service plan". It's like your gas or internet service. You cancel it and it goes away. You don't keep anything from that time.
@sean @jsit yup it’s just like cable tv except without a schedule.
@jsit so true. Read your post to my wife, she pointed out like you said about Time, she had an ipsy subscription briefly, maybe she stopped a year ago? And she still has the makeup. You'd call physical stuff lootboxes now maybe, but we both agreed that rentscriptions pretty much sums it up well for the streaming stuff.

@jsit Though conversely, subscribing to a paper magazine doesn't traditionally give you access to back issues. So that's something at least.

That makes me wonder what the word "subscription" was first applied to.

@jsit https://www.etymonline.com/word/subscription

I guess the original meaning is basically to agree to recurring payments. Which both meet, but the meaning has changed since we don't seem to refer "subscribing" to a loan agreement.

I don't necessarily think the problem is that it's only accessible while you are subscribed. But rather when there's no other purchase option, they can remove it at any time, and even if they decide to never offer it again you can't expect to live to see it enter the public domain.

subscription | Etymology of subscription by etymonline

piece of writing at the end of a document, especially one's name or mark to attest to… See origin and meaning of subscription.

@jsit In comparison, suppose your Disney+ subscription gave you access to all in-copyright media owned by Disney, every individual item could separately purchased in a loan-able/resell-able form, and entered the public domain after 20 years or as soon as it is no longer for sale and streaming, whichever occurs sooner.

That seems reasonable, even if there isn't an option for a "traditional" magazine-like subscription.

@jsit privatised library services
@jsit yep, rent is a good word

@jsit

"What do we call these? “Service plans”? “Rentscriptions”?"

Life services. Highly popular among gaming producers. Nowadays many don't even give you the rights to own the game you buy. Despicable, capitalist bullshittery because management needs to pretty up its shareholder reports.

@jsit I don’t know anybody who keeps a stack of old Time magazines who isn’t a library.

For a magazine subscription, you prepay for a magazine that you’re expected to throw away after a week. That’s pretty comparable to a streaming subscription that throws away any movies you download after a week.

But if it bothers you that much, call it a “membership” instead. That way it’s comparable to joining a club that revokes all access to its resources when you stop paying.

@jsit same here on some of things I “subscribe” to like Blue Apron. If I cancel, will they try to take back all the food I ate?

It doesn’t make sense anymore.

@jsit

What do we call these? “Service plans”? “Rentscriptions”?

Hostage situations?

@uastronomer

@edavies @jsit @uastronomer came here to say this but had a feeling someone would have already thought of it

@jsit

Something that kicks you out when you stop paying is a lease. These are music leases, tv leases, etc. The companies operating them are more like landlords than anything. I think "content lord" is more accurate.

@kcarp Haha I like “content lord”
@jsit @thomasescritt Leased licence
@christianschwaegerl @jsit @thomasescritt Rent-seeking seems to cover it for me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking You could read the definition from the Oxford English Dictionary, but rent-seeking is required.
Rent-seeking - Wikipedia

@jsit Why do we need a new word? Why not just call it 'rent' like in 'renting an appartment' or 'renting a videotape'?
@jsit Rental. It's just like renting an apartment or a car. You get to use it only while you pay. It's content rental.
@jsit I mean, when you canceled your subscription to Time for a year and then resubscribed did they send you all the issues you’d missed?
@jsit
ah, software as a service, the perfect business model. why make a product and give it to someone when you could simply put a wall around a product, preferably one you didn't even have to make yourself, then charge people for access? that's just good business sense!
@jsit agreed. I'm so glad I've kept all my CDs and most of my DVDs. I'd call those current subscription models "rentals".
@jsit membership. Like to a health club
@jsit Rent sounds accurate. I happen to like getting access to most of the music ever recorded for $10/mo but no way is it a sustainable biz model. Spotify still losing money I believe.

@jsit

Time share membership

@jsit "Membership" is probably a better term, since you lose access to perks/services/etc when it lapses. I'm not sure if there's some concrete reason the companies avoid using that wording/structure.

@SeanMarsala @jsit Membership implies benefits and I think the companies have been shy to admit that their content is a "benefit." I think Disney tried the "club" idea back in the day but it didn't catch on.

Also, no one in marketing cares about accuracy of words, just how it makes the buyer feel. And once one marketing group has badly refined a term, that's the one all other marketers will use. See: Cloud Services