Fujitsu bugs that sent innocent people to prison were known “from the start”

https://lemmy.world/post/10919589

Fujitsu bugs that sent innocent people to prison were known “from the start” - Lemmy.World

A lot of people in the UK prosecutors offices and post office management should be going to prison.

This has been going on for twenty-five years. The system was originally rolled out in 1999. I’ve been hearing stuff about this case off and on for about a decade now.

Why the living fuck isn’t everyone involved with every step of this process behind bars.

The wildest shit is it’s not even Fujitsu to blame! It’s some fucking idiots in charge at Royal Mail who literally fraudulently edited statements from Fujitsu to claim that there were no errors and the system was working.

They used these false statements to prosecute, imprison, and fine hundreds of Postal Employees.

What a waste of time, money, resources, and human fucking life.

Fujitsu aren’t blameless, not at all. They were going into user’s accounts and fiddling figures, correcting the errors the software made.

Then when a sub-postmaster went to their office and saw this, they retaliated by setting his account to debit and erased records of him being there. It may well be that many of the victims were targeted for complaining that the system was flawed.

Why the living fuck isn’t everyone involved with every step of this process behind bars.

Im so confused. They’ve been trying to arrest as many QA people as possible 😎

Did you miss that it was only poor People that were imprisoned?

I'd be so pissed if I ended up prosecuting a case and found out layrothe cops gave me bunk evidence. Not only is that a huge injustice, it's a waste of time when there are REAL issues to deal with.

But I also am not sure I'd go straight to hanging the prosecutors unless they knew and still charged.

Because while yes, prosecutors should know their cases, at some point folks have to be able to rely on 'experts' (and most prosecutors I've met are... Not great with tech so they are gonna rely on the expertise of others when it comes to this sort of thing).

Yeah what’s the charges for destruction of evidence? This should absolutely be treated as a criminal matter
Weren’t there also Fujitsu employees in the Braknell office also remote connecting to Horizon terminals and post offices and fucking with the numbers in there?
Also people from Fujitsu committed purgery in court.
Perjury*

Pugery

That’s quite a tame picture considering the typo
I've been following this case for the last 10 years, amazed that government after government was just, you know, watching it all traspire, not acting to stop the injustices being metted down on these public/private servants. I watched the TV mini series, and am so gratified to see this absolute horrorshow blow up in the UK over the past 3 weeks seeking to bring justice to these thousands of abused postmasters and postmistresses

That goes back to 1999, when the Horizon software system was installed in post offices by Fujitsu subsidiary International Computers Limited. From 1999 to 2015, Fujitsu’s faulty accounting software aided in the prosecution and conviction of more than 900 sub-postmasters and postmistresses who were accused of theft or fraud when the software wrongly made it appear that money was missing from their branches.

Thanks, I was wondering what this was
That really sounds like those that edited those testimonies and those that ordered the edits should be going to prison because holy shit that’s bad
You could try out this crazy new thing called reading the article

Sure, and that’s what I would have done next if someone didn’t extract the key detail I was looking for

When a story is relevant to me I’ll still go and read the article. Otherwise I can get the details I need, as well as extra context, from the comment sections

Far too many writers turn two sentences of information into two pages of waffle.

Proprietary software makers: our software is more secure than open source because the public can’t go looking for bugs to exploit.

Proprietary software:

Does the UK not have habeus corpus?
Habeas Corpus Act 1679 - Wikipedia

Then how the fuck can hundreds be convicted just because database said so?
Latin for Habitable Corpse. A necrophiliac term suggesting beauty.
It’s what happens when you have a ‘justice’ system which is biased in favour of people with more money to spend on lawyers - literally pay to win. It’s unthinkable that in such a democratic society our justice system could still be this way, biased against poor people.
FOSS or create hell. Literally.