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I love this. Highly concatenative languages with rich internal morphology (inupiaq, the Salish languages, Turkish) would be valued as "code talkers" for their bandwidth, not their encryption

@tilde did you see this post? the linked article is super interesting and I think relevant to your speculation here

https://mstdn.social/@idoubtit/111766777493903742

@tilde sending visual information would also be important, especially things like maps. the language could be extended to contain a sort of compressed SVG-like standard to transmit and receive images.

or at least I think that would make sense. I tried to do this in a campaign and the DM wouldn't let me ​

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Pffft! That’s easy! It’s a trio of bits!

@tilde sounds like a job for Ithkuil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithkuil

@tilde I could see the universe being a dick, and switch to binary words if you try too hard to break the rules.

25 words = 50 bytes

"Hello, I've come from the future to tell you not t" = 50 bytes Unicode.

@tilde @Flyingmana It depends on the CPU architecture used to cast the spell.

If it’s an old architecture, word size might be 8-bit or 16-bit. However, newer architectures use 32-bit or 64-bit words. In terms of programming, the spell might use WORD (16 bits/2 bytes), DWORD (32 bits/4 bytes) or QWORD (64 bits/8 bytes) structures.

x86 architectures commonly use 16 bits as the base word size, while IBM S/360 uses 32 bits.

Assuming 16-bit words, the caster can send 50 bytes of data.

@tilde Fun fact: Spoken English does about as much concatenation as German (spoken every day language, not extreme overused examples) . It's just that German gramer developed between 17th to late 19th century to reflect this while English did (in general) not.

So hose clerks task isn't as hard as it seems: Simply let word definition follow the way trade tongue is already pronounced.

Apart from that, every group will always develop wording to express items that outside that group may need a whole paragraph. Just look at how AC and pilots communicate. 25 words are quite fine to exactly exchange all the complex data needed to land a plane.

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I have no idea how one would look it up, but I read a wonderful #SciFi #Fantasy story maybe ten-fifteen years ago about the invention of the "word." It felt incredibly plausible, & it pointed out that somebody somewhere had to come up with that idea. In fact, if you look at a lot of old Roman carvings of signs & quotes & whatnot, using a space between words was actually a fairly late innovation. >

@tilde Did you see this article a few weeks ago?
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/15/us/antique-dress-maine-encrypted-message-cec/index.html

It's about a code found in an old dress that turned out to be highly densely encoded weather data:

'Each word represented meteorological variables such as temperature, wind speed and barometric pressure at a specific location and time of day' using a codebook on sender and receiver side to save money on morse transmission cost

@tilde A friend just came up with an example in Turkish, which is a single word but conveys a very complex meaning: "

muvaffakiyetsizleştiricileştiriveremeyebileceklerimizdenmişsinizcesine"