The comments speak for themselves

https://lemmy.world/post/10786749

The comments speak for themselves - Lemmy.World

I’m not sure that lemmy users are different in this from user of Reddit/HackerNews/Facebook/etc.
It’s never been about reading the post/ articles. Mmm?!
I like the discussion about the topic.

I 100% did this on Reddit. And I do it here too. Most news websites are garbage and loaded with advertisements. Get halfway through the story and a full page ad pops up or a video starts playing. Honestly, does anybody stop reading to watch those videos???

Or, you go into the comments and see the summary, or the full article, or quotes of the most important parts with discussions. If I feel I have questions, only then will I open the website.

You must be the last person on Lemmy still looking at these sites the way they’re displayed by default. Firefox, adblock, no script, pi hole, etc makes all that go away pretty painlessly.
I use an app on my phone that just loads the website in a browser within the app.

Android or iOS? There are solutions on both. Adblockers are available and have been for years.

There’s nothing stopping you from fixing this other than your own ignorance.

iOS. I use Firefox normally, but the app just loads the in app web browser, which I doesn’t seem to block ads. Not sure if safari extensions would work with the in app browser… might try it.
Kinda understandable for articles from sites that pester you to disable adblocker or pay for a subscription (WSJ/Wired/Guardian type news sites etc).
I read comments first mostly because a lot of posted articles are behind a paywall or i have to turn off my adblockers and maybe someone posted a tldr
Shoot, they won’t just be posting a tl;dr, but a commentary on it, and sometimes really good context from their field or experience. It’s basically the article, but written by a more intelligent journalist who is a part of whatever is being reported on, not just observing from interviews and phone calls (and lame corporate website ‘about us’ pages).
Yeah thats what i mean a tldr but from ppl that know shit :)

Exactly - no fluff or dancing around, they get right to the point and make concrete assertions. Then if they’re wrong, people will correct them, and you get a debate that (hopefully) brings up various subtleties and connected issues for a more holistic view.

Then if I’m still intrigued, I read the source

There weren’t enough tik toks in the article
How am I supposed to read this article without Subway Surfer?

I read the TLDR bot at least…

Seems like that gives 90% of the relevant info, then I view the article if there’s anything missing.

Not that it makes a difference, my opinions are formed before I even read the title. I’m dug in, and I’ll never change 😎

I always read the top comment first, because often they have a better article or explain why the article is misleading
Yeah, I go top comment(s) to see if the article is not clickbait. Then I’ll read the summary to see if it’s any good. Then I’ll go to the article itself if those check out.
But what if that comment is instead downvoted to death because it goes against the community opinions?
Then I look for a better community
I generally do this because the articles are often behind paywalls.

I’m dug in, and I’ll never change 😎

'Cause we don’t have to! 'Cause we’re AMERICANS! We won’t change our minds on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before us.

Rock, flag, and eagle! Right, li10?

I think they should copy paste the entire article in text and just linkn it in case someone need to confirm. I just dont want to open a browser and deal with site too much hazzle besides you are aldready going through it anyway
Much better to just post an archive link. Lenny’s not really big enough to garner this kind of attention yet, but copying article text wholesale is a good way to get DMCA claimed and that’s not fair to do to instance admins.
Oh i didnt know about that . Seems fair.
I tried to read the article but it was paywalled. Or it wanted me to turn off my ad blocker before I could read the article. Or it was a video. Or the source was something like www.patriotusaeaglenews.ru.
The first two can often be thwarted by turning off Javascript. And if it still doesn’t work, it probably wasn’t worth your time anyways.

You ever used the web with javascript disabled? How do you do this on a mobile device? Are you sticking to this setting?

Lemmy is awesome to me for this reason: Mostlikely the bot comment is either at the top, or at the bottom. Former tells me that bo expert has yet entered the conversation. Maybe I have meaningful insight (I haven’t yet. My shame). The latter shows me I need to read the tldr first, before proceeding to read the conversation. Or maybe I have already cosumed the article and I am still looking for other views on it.

Anyhow, I think it shows that the internet nowadays does no spread information, but user data.

I only turn off javascript on specific annoying websites. Then it stays off for that website. I don’t know how to do that on mobile.
Well, I'm not a lemmy user. But I generally read the comments to gauge whether it is worth reading the article.
Many articles are only accessible via a VPN, blocked either by my side or theirs. I’m too tired to switch it on and off. Summary bot is very helpful.
Yep, 95% of the news site are cancer
I wasn’t talking about that.
Im a Scorpio

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Is that some religion shit again?

In case you’re not joking, this is what i meant, friend. Just a pun :)

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And there’s a ton of articles here with very misleading titles, specially on technology communities. At some point I noticed three large threads in a row where the article title claimed one thing but even the article itself was about something completely different.
Boy ain't that the truth, I like his bulging eyeballs and rabid frantic posturing. That's me, I'm all too guilty of doing the same.
Always have. On /. 25 years ago we posted before reading TFA, it’s the way.
I see someone posted a spongebob picture, I love spongerobert!
I don’t want to read the thing. I want to discuss the thing that i didn’t read with other people who didn’t read the thing.
Did you read the thing? Because I didn’t and I don’t like your opinion on that topic!
I wanna report this post because i see myself in the picture.
No!! Lemmings don’t rush in water they live in holes🐭
I prefer to only read the top line of a meme then post. And no that’s not a Lemmy user, that’s squidward
Right!? Everyone but us is so stupid for talking about Lemmy (who ever that is) in here, while this is obviously squidward. Sheeple are so stupid!
There’s articles?
I’m just here to argue with baseless opinions
No one is here to discuss anything in good faith.
Not just here. Everywhere!
Reddit users too
Everywhere on social media. However, I did notice I actually read through the articles more often here on lemmy.
Not quite everywhere Everytime I tried doing it on Twitter or tiktok I never find any useful info in the comments