Matthew CassinelliI want a Shared Up Next for the Apple TV app.
There’s certain shows I save to watch with my partner, and other shows I watch on my own – being able to separate the two would be great 📺
lol I posted this exact thought two months ago https://mastodon.social/@matthewcassinelli/111387553806381603
Nicolas Ward 
@matthewcassinelli Apple barely believes families use devices together. Family Sharing got horribly broken in Sonoma TV app for one.
Joe Rosensteel 🏳️🌈@ultranurd @matthewcassinelli Apple’s tvOS devs need to start over from scratch on user profiles. They’re implemented like it’s a single seat network terminal, and they don’t integrate with streamers. Just useless.
Jason Becker@joesteel @ultranurd @matthewcassinelli the lack of streamer integration is wild, especially considering the data Apple presumably has for the TV app.
@jsonbecker @ultranurd @matthewcassinelli it’s just like with everything else. There’s no carrot, and no stick, to make the streamers do anything. In the case of User Profiles, I don’t care because it sucks, but they have no leverage to make anyone adopt anything on this platform.
@joesteel @ultranurd @matthewcassinelli yes, I get that. It just sucks that there’s no mechanism to have a good experience in the very common multi-person household. Having to switch all over all the time and keep answering who is watching sucks. And no one wants to do anything that lets me forget they exist, which is what I really want.
Arthur Rosa@joesteel @ultranurd what’s stupider is streamers _could_ implement the profiles feature with just an entitlement and a few lines of code, if i’m reading this right https://developer.apple.com/documentation/tvservices/mapping_apple_tv_users_to_app_profiles
they just don’t care. like you said Joe there’s no incentive to get them to adopt it and so even though the effort is tiny they’ll never do it unless forced to.
fwiw profile switching works perfectly in apple arcade games. so it’s possible! but they’re forced to make it work i assume.
Andrew Conn@matthewcassinelli Totally agree. Apple TV UX made an assumption that account switching should be at the global level — like when you log in to a computer. But, using a TV is a shared experience, not a desk with a computer one person can use at a time. The way it’s designed adds a LOT of friction and (in observing my family’s use) leads to simply having one main account nobody ever switches from. (1/3)
@matthewcassinelli This UX decision degrades your experience over time — especially with Apple’s own services — because the data used to power content recommendations for a single account is now coming from multiple people and their preferences. So, nobody is getting what they want recommended, having to look longer, etc. It’s a viscous self-reinforcing cycle. (2/3)
@matthewcassinelli What I think we’d all like to see is fast user switching PER APP just like we see with basically every streaming app these days. It’s a well established UX pattern at this point and I can only assume they haven’t implemented it due to some underlying platform / technical baggage. (3/3)
Rodrigo Escobar@matthewcassinelli that already exists. I set it up for my sister and her partner. It doesn’t show up at the top but you have to scroll a bit down to find it.
@rodrigo Are you referring to the For You section? I have a shared area for that on the TV
@matthewcassinelli yeah, that was the one I meant. You can set it up so that it takes into account all the accounts associated with the Apple TV. I don’t think it works on individual devices but I’m not entirely sure.
Dan Moren@matthewcassinelli This is a good one.
Jonathan Reed@matthewcassinelli Prediction: Apple allows multiple logins for iPads before this.