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Nearly 200 names linked to Jeffrey Epstein expected to be made public

https://lemmy.world/post/10223332

Nearly 200 names linked to Jeffrey Epstein expected to be made public - Lemmy.World

List could be released as soon as Tuesday after deadline for objections to unsealing of names passes midnight Monday Nearly 200 names connected to the Jeffrey Epstein-Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking conspiracy could be released by a New York judge as soon as Tuesday, exposing or confirming the identities of dozens of associates of the disgraced financier that until now have only been known as John and Jane Does in court papers. A deadline for objections to the unsealing of the names passes at midnight on Monday, nearly nine years after victim Virginia Giuffre filed a single defamation claim against Maxwell, daughter of the late British press baron Robert Maxwell, in 2015, that in turn produced the names in legal depositions. A year later, in 2016, US district court judge Robert Sweet rejected Maxwell’s motion to dismiss the case, finding that “the veracity of a contextual world of facts more broad than the allegedly defamatory statements” and that Guiffre “was a victim of sustained underage sexual abuse between 1999 and 2002”. The parties settled out of court in 2017.

Jan 2, 2024 at 4:49amWeb
Show threadwildcardologyJan 2, 2024
I want to see that list. I hope no names are redacted.
Show threadjordanlundJan 2, 2024

Instead of redacting them, they should turn them into anagrams. :)

Clint Lil Nob
Abba Amok Car
Portland Mud

Show threadRinseDrizzleJan 2, 2024
Lol, glad I sat a sec to solve.
Show thread𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍Jan 2, 2024
Bill, Barack, Donald?
Show threadtsonfeirJan 2, 2024
Trump, no matter how you shuffle it.
Show threadtakedaJan 2, 2024
Clinton and Trump were reported to have some connections, then also was one from British royalty (don’t care enough to know which one), also Gates, but was Obama his friend too?
Show threadjordanlundJan 2, 2024
Basically anyone with money or interested in Epstein’s money.
Show threadIIIJan 3, 2024
“money”…
Show threadOldWoodFrameJan 2, 2024
No, zero evidence on Obama. Proven in a court of law Trump is on there and it’s widely known Bill Clinton is on there, this person is just adding a president.
Show threadOrteilGenouJan 2, 2024
I expected better of Mort Pudland
Show threadSzymonJan 2, 2024
The odds of a celebrity suicide are higher today than normal
Show threadKlearJan 2, 2024
A star is falling, make a wish!
Show threadjballsJan 2, 2024
Didn’t we already see the list in the form of the black book that was released years ago? I felt like it came out, and people were like “yep, that makes sense” and then nothing changed.
Show threadOldWoodFrameJan 3, 2024
Law enforcement doesn’t need the names to be public, literally the only thing this changes is that the public will know the names. Don’t expect anything to happen.
Show threadassa123Jan 8, 2024
from newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-list-full-dozens-nam… : Ghislaine Maxwell Virginia Lee Roberts Giuffre Kathy Alexander Miles Alexander James Michael Austrich Philip Barden REDACTED Cate Blanchett David Boies Laura Boothe Evelyn Boulet Rebecca Boylan Joshua Bunner Naomi Campbell Carolyn Casey Paul Cassell Sharon Churcher Bill Clinton David Copperfield Alexandra Cousteau Cameron Diaz Leonardo DiCaprio Alan Dershowitz Dr. Mona Devanesan REDACTED Bradley Edwards Amanda Ellison Cimberly Espinosa Jeffrey Epstein Annie Farmer Marie Farmer Alexandra Fekkai Crystal Figueroa Anthony Figueroa Louis Freeh Eric Gany Meg Garvin Sheridan Gibson-Butte Robert Giuffre Al Gore Ross Gow Fred Graff Philip Guderyon REDACTED Shannon Harrison Stephen Hawking Victoria Hazel Brittany Henderson Brett Jaffe Michael Jackson Carol Roberts Kess Dr. Karen Kutikoff Peter Listerman George Lucas Tony Lyons Bob Meister Jamie A. Melanson Lynn Miller Marvin Minsky REDACTED David Mullen Joe Pagano Mary Paluga J. Stanley Pottinger Joseph Recarey Michael Reiter Jason Richards Bill Richardson Sky Roberts Scott Rothstein Forest Sawyer Doug Schoetlle Kevin Spacey Cecilia Stein Mark Tafoya Brent Tindall Kevin Thompson Donald Trump Ed Tuttle Emma Vaghan Kimberly Vaughan-Edwards Cresenda Valdes Anthony Valladares Maritza Vazquez Vicky Ward Jarred Weisfeld Courtney Wild Bruce Willis Daniel Wilson Andrew Albert Christian Edwards, Duke of York
Jeffrey Epstein List in Full as Dozens of Names Revealed

Prince Andrew and former President Bill Clinton listed in new trove of documents regarding the late financier Jeffrey Epstein.

Newsweek
Show threadTheDeepStateJan 2, 2024
I’m sure that somehow some of the names will be left off the list “by accident”.
Show threadLifeInMultipleChoiceJan 2, 2024

Should it be released, yes. Should people care who is listed, no. I foresee this just becoming a court of public opinion stating everyone on the list is guilty of crimes they have 0 evidence of. This is evidence of nothing but will be berated by people as. “(S)he was on Epsteins list”

Yeah, so was his hair stylist, it doesn’t mean the barber had anything to do with sex trafficking.

Show threadCarrotBottomJan 2, 2024
There’s a very wealthy foundation that will stop that from happening. And there’s a reason Melinda left Bill.
Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024
What reason?
Show threadNythosJan 2, 2024
“The billionaire has acknowledged that he “shouldn’t have had dinners with him” while his ex-wife Melinda French Gates said the business and technology magnate’s relationship with Epstein played a role in their divorce.”
Fact Check: Did Bill Gates Visit Epstein Island 37 Times?

The claim comes amid reports of new court docs will soon reveal more of Jeffrey Epstein's past.

Newsweek
Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024
Thanks
Show threadvxxJan 2, 2024
Do you have a better source than a nesweek article that is completely based on unproven tweets?
Show threadNythosJan 2, 2024

I just did a quick google search to try and find anything in the other persons claims but there is

NYTimes which I can’t access because of paywall

A BBC article of bill gates admitting he had meetings with Epstein

And that’s what I can find after looking for a couple minutes.

Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past

Mr. Gates has minimized his ties to Mr. Epstein. But a Times investigation reveals they had a closer relationship than previously known.

The New York Times
Show threadKushanJan 2, 2024

Bill gates has publicly spoken about his meetings with Epstein, that’s well known and public knowledge at this point.

I believe what’s being asked for is more concrete information on why Melinda left Bill Gates and if Epstein had anything to do with it.

Show threadNythosJan 2, 2024
I couldn’t find anything regarding that but I wasn’t exactly trying very hard into sprawling the internet for it so it could be out there if you put any more effort than a quick search
Show threadStorminNormanJan 2, 2024
Might need to update your search skills/sources/settings, I literally searched “Melinda Gates Epstein” and this was the first result. Kinda feels wrong even calling it a “quick search” given how little effort it took…
Melinda Gates Says Bill Gates's Work with “Abhorrent” Jeffrey Epstein Led to Divorce

Melinda Gates says Bill Gates's work with “abhorrent” Jeffrey Epstein was one of the things that led to their divorce, but the philanthropist added that she also realized their marriage “just wasn’t healthy, and I couldn’t trust what we had.”

Vanity Fair
Show threadOctavioJan 2, 2024
Gift link for the NYT article if I did that right.
Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past

Mr. Gates has minimized his ties to Mr. Epstein. But a Times investigation reveals they had a closer relationship than previously known.

The New York Times
Show threadassa123Jan 5, 2024
Thank you! I felt that only upvoting wasn’t enough.
Show threadAnneBonnyJan 3, 2024

newsweek.com/bill-gates-ex-wife-melinda-relations…

Skip to 2:05:

youtu.be/iADjz5sYyCA

Bill Gates' Ex-Wife Melinda Says His Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein Hurt Marriage

"I did not like that he had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein... I made that clear to him," said Melinda French Gates of Bill Gates, who she divorced in 2021.

Newsweek
Show threadtsonfeirJan 2, 2024
Like “Trump”
Show threadpelespiritJan 2, 2024
I had no idea that the flight logs were on archive.org. Are they right? archive.org/details/…/2up?view=theater
Epstein's full flight logs - UNREDACTED : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The full list of passenger who flew to Epstein's pedo Island.Pedo island visitors include Jean-Luc Brunel, Alan Dershowitz, Roger Stone, Prince Andrew, Bill...

Internet Archive
Show threadLerajeJan 2, 2024
Is this really a good idea? Aren’t dozens and dozens of Epstein’s victims now going to be doxxed?
Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024
How do you mean?
Show threadLerajeJan 2, 2024

Well, the lead paragraph says:

“Nearly 200 names connected to the Jeffrey Epstein-Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking conspiracy could be released by a New York judge as soon as Tuesday, exposing or confirming the identities of dozens of associates of the disgraced financier…”

‘dozens’ is not the same as 200. Therefore, I’d have to assume that some of those names, that are just described as ‘connected’ to Epstein could very well be his victims. I could well be wrong, it just seems a bit concerning that no one’s considered how the actual victims feel about this.

Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024

Oh. I see your concern. A bit of a leap, since dozens doesn’t really have an upper limit, and it could be including the already confirmed names released, and it wouldn’t make much sense for him to write down the names of his victims, much less their current addresses

And there are lots of groups concerned and acting on part of Epstein’s victims, so they aren’t so forgotten or defenseless as you might be worried about.

I’d also rather the police released the name of a hypothetical victim to catch a rapist than to leave the rapist at a large out of concern, endangering catalyst others, for a modicum of privacy for one victim.

Show threadLerajeJan 2, 2024

As I understand it, these aren’t just names he’d (or Maxwell) wrote down or otherwise recorded, these are names linked to him through various sources. Some of his victims might not even know they’re on that list (if they even are). Not all victims voluntarily come forward and suddenly being named like this might be a massive shock. Just because you’re OK with a victim being named, doesn’t mean they are. They’ve already gone through at least one violation.

I’m all for catching rapists and abusers, but there must be ways of handling this that don’t involve just info dumping loads of names to the general public. At the very least, shouldn’t they be released to some sort of authority that can investigate and sift out potential victims before they’re plastered everywhere?

Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024

You’re piling fear-based assumption on top of assumption.

Your point is that if something bad you’re imagining happens, bad things might happen?

What a deduction. Good thing you spread that out over several paragraphs.

No, I don’t think we should further procrastinate pursuing an assist delayed critically important investigation out of respect for hypothetical, indirect risks.

Show threadLerajeJan 2, 2024

Your point is that if something bad you’re imagining happens, bad things might happen?

From the article you clearly haven’t read;

“It may also name Epstein’s alleged victims who had been taken to homes…”

I realise that, to you, it’s much more important to gloat over the names of people you don’t like you hope are on there. My perspective is that, if there are indeed names of victims amongst these 200 names as seems at the very least a distinct possibility, in order to prevent them being re-victimised , it might be better to take the time to do everything that can be done to stop that happening because, I assure you, to a rape or abuse victim, the risks are neither hypothetical or indirect.

Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024

Pull as many false claims from the air as you want, equating the hypothetical disclosure of names with actual rape is wildly irresponsible equivocation and is not a good reason to protect rapists.

Which is all you’re advocating for.

Show threadLerajeJan 2, 2024

Yeah, just me and a well respected national newspaper.

Who on earth is talking about protecting rapists? The other names are still going to be on there so you can have your little moment of glee seeing all those people you hate named and shamed.

You’re not interested in the rights of victims whatsoever - you’re one of those people who loves to air their righteous indignation as publicly as possible, never giving a thought to the fact there’s actual people, actual victims who this man and his friends raped and abused and just possibly it might be an idea, to prevent them having to relive that trauma, to ensure that their names don’t become fodder to every internet mob and tabloid editor in the world.

Show threadVarykJan 2, 2024
Wow, you projecting that hard is going to burn-in your screen, be careful.
Show threaddtcJan 2, 2024
200 is 16⅔ dozens.
Show threadEndorkendJan 2, 2024

They are marked out on the documents.

Not all that well tho, seems they just did the ol "black bar over image" thing idiots keep doing with PDFs where you can actually remove the black bars and see what's underneath.

But a lot of names are only first names or initials, so it's probably not going to be as helpful or exposing as one would like them to be.

The Orange One and JFK Jrs names are in there in full tho.

Here's the flightlogs.

Show threadandrew_bidlawJan 2, 2024
Why now?
Show threadparaphrandJan 2, 2024
To distract from alien disclosure. /s
Show threadkaseJan 3, 2024
Aliens? Are you telling me you think space is real??
Show threadKbobabobJan 2, 2024

They are from 2015 and…

U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska ruled earlier this month there was no legal justification for continuing to conceal the ex-president’s name and more than 150 names other “John and Jane Does” mentioned in the records.

Quote taken from here

Jeffrey Epstein documents featuring prominent names to be released

Hundreds of sealed court filings pertaining to the late sex-offender Jeffrey Epstein are set to be made public this week.

ABC7 Chicago
Show threadpete_the_catJan 3, 2024
It’s ridiculous how long “justice” takes.
Show threadPrataiJan 2, 2024
Amazingly, they all changed their names to [REDACTED].
Show threadPlasmaDistortionJan 2, 2024
That Redacted guy sure is a bad dude!
Show threadafraid_of_zombiesJan 3, 2024
Yes well to be fair he never recovered from his service in every war since WW2 across multiple theaters plus special ops stuff. I would like to see you be perfectly ethical after 9 million man-hours of combat stretched over 7 decades.
Show threadFrigidJan 3, 2024
What’s the point of redaction if everyone can so easily figure out it’s Steve Rogers?
Show threadhideoJan 2, 2024
That guy is always up to things
Show threadOok the LibrarianJan 2, 2024

There might be breadcrumbs in the redactions. Like

  • Squee
  • [REDACTED]
  • Donkeydong Doug
Show threadSanity_in_ModerationJan 3, 2024
Not Donkey Doug! He’s my boy! I don’t think of him as my boy, I think of him as my boy! Yeah, but it’s more like… “That’s my son right there, son.” But not, like, “son-son”, but, like, “my boy”. But not, like…
Show threadNixJan 2, 2024

That took a while… enough to have double/triple/quadruple checked and “removed” most high profile names with any modicum of power and/or financial backing 🤔

Well I reserve my judgment until the names are published. We already know some of the entourage from previous journalists and reports.

If most names published are of unknown, foreign or already passed away individuals it would be quite suspicious indeed.

Show threadxc2215xJan 2, 2024
Glad the names are being released.
Show threadChemical WonkaJan 2, 2024
Perfect time for the media to release a bombshell news about aliens to divert attention.
Show threadAlien Nathan EdwardJan 2, 2024
this is the sanitized list. all the child rapists who matter will continue to rape children with impunity.
Show threadlittleblue✨Jan 2, 2024
Something something Panama Papers… 🤬🖕🏼