At #37c3 they have IRC, and Matrix for text and for voice they setup their own LTE/2G/3G/SIP/DECT network where you bring whatever phone-like device and pick a 4 digit phone number.

Meanwhile in the USA for #defcon they just paid Discord money and told everyone to accept their privacy policy, and even the DC Privacy Village asks people to sign up for Slack and Google.

People ask why I fly to CCC from the USA. It is because that is the closest place to find a thriving hacker culture.

Related: if anyone in the central Silicon Valley that wants to start a corpo-free hackerspace where we favor learning and building over buying, hit me up.
@lrvick I’m wish coooperative membership maker spaces were a common occurrence. Shared studios. Expensive equipment none could afford on their own but could as a co-op, printers scanners laser cutters vinyl cutters 3-d printers wondering station, kilns, tools.
@Chancerubbage @lrvick The CCC is a "Verein". That is like a non-government, non-profit organisation. We have members and members pay membership fees. There are local groups organised under an umbrella org. And we have membership meetings with democratic elections for board members and actions and distribution of money. Apart from that the Congress and Camp are organised by volunteers, people who have attended before and now have ideas about how to make it even better. It's a thriving community.

@levampyre @lrvick

The what? The who? What question is this answering? The BLT is on the PDQ? Ok.

@Chancerubbage I was explaining to @lrvick the community and structures that enable us to host the Congress and make it a great event even for visitors from abroad. It's organised and run by the community for the community.

@levampyre @lrvick

Yes, our tangents didn’t quite entangle. I don’t speak the alphabet soup jargon. Appreciated.

@Chancerubbage Ah, sorry, of course. CCC means Chaos Computer Club [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club]. It is a hacker association founded in Germany in 1981. And we host a yearly event - the Chaos Communication Congress [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress] with talks, and workshops and tech tinkering and art and music and community building events. And, other than Defcon, it's not sponsored and entirely run by volunteers. (That's why it is so amazing!)
Chaos Computer Club - Wikipedia

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@gabert Man tut, was man kann. 😉