Church of Jeff
ferricoxide@jeffowski
Why I want people to get serious about halting climate change: I'm on track to retire around 2037 and want to have a few years to enjoy getting out of my skull high on everything that has been incompatible with my employment.
Urban Hermit@jeffowski a society where the person helping you with your purchase is accepted as just like you is a more just one, where both of you are happier.
I am not even wild about the word server. And effing let people sit at a work station (tall bar stool) when they don't need to be actively standing, or you will never find experienced workers again.
CyrillYeah! Engineers, medics, scientists... Are they all elitist assholes? Why those who spend his youth to study hard should be treated equally to those who slacked all the time having fun, Was drunk and high on drugs during school/college time. Nah! There are jobs that almost everybody can do (that require no skills), there are jobs that requires lots of skills (and skills that hard to get).
@Cyrill --
This is the attitude that people who do the things you can't or won't do should be paid little to nothing because you assume you're better than them.
You're willful ignorance about the meme really reveals your true face.
This is the attitude that people who do the things you can't or won't do should be paid little to nothing because you assume you're better than them.
You're willful ignorance about the meme really reveals your true face.
@jeffowski
You do not know me, my profession and job position. But you already judge my true face by ignoring the meaning of my message. Here (where now I live) so called low skilled jobs very often paid multiple times of those who had jobs that required high skills. And that really hurts the whole society. Why study hard instead of having fan? Just to get low paid job?
You do not know me, my profession and job position. But you already judge my true face by ignoring the meaning of my message. Here (where now I live) so called low skilled jobs very often paid multiple times of those who had jobs that required high skills. And that really hurts the whole society. Why study hard instead of having fan? Just to get low paid job?
@Cyrill --
Again, you're either an idiot that doesn't understand the meme or you are willfully misunderstanding the meme to hijack it so you can be an elitist and classist asshole.
Again, any normal person would see the meme as it is, and not as a projection your own insecurities and lack of self-worth.
Again, you're either an idiot that doesn't understand the meme or you are willfully misunderstanding the meme to hijack it so you can be an elitist and classist asshole.
Again, any normal person would see the meme as it is, and not as a projection your own insecurities and lack of self-worth.
szczurFirst off, the people “slacking off” is a red herring, but whatever. What you seem to miss in your limited mindset is the inequality of opportunity. Despite our technological progress, we are still mostly struggling with helping people reach their potential. Because meritocracy is mostly a myth.
But then, it’s fine. I don’t feel like the fact that a lot of society sustaining jobs require less education and time mastering is a bad thing – it’s exactly the opposite, because this means we are able to man these jobs more easily and reliably. But it shouldn’t mean people doing these jobs are to be paid less. Because both doctors and trash collectors are equally important to society.
LRRR 
Ooc: I may regret this, but I think there's an important semantic disconnect here. Dickheads often use the word "skill" as a synonym for moral worth, which is bullshit, and that's the interpretation the image is railing against. As far as that goes, I am right there with you. 10/10; happy hunting!
But I don't think it diminishes the dignity of work to observe that there are huge differences in the amount of time it takes to learn to do an adequate job at different types of things. For example: I once had a job where I scooped frozen dog shit into a bucket. I was doing an adequate job by the end of day one. Over time, I might have become the Zorro of poop scooping (sadly, we will never know), but I was making people happy enough right out of the gate. Today, I am a lawyer; it took four years of undergrad, three years of law school, and three more years of "holy fuck what am I doing!" before I could confidently call myself adequate. [A pilot or a brain surgeon is probably a better example]. In that moral valence-free sense, then fuck yeah there are jobs that take more time to become competent in. In the sense that "skill" means "time and ability required to do a minimally acceptable job," I don't see a problem with characterizing some jobs as high-skill and others as low-skill. In this better, more useful sense, skill doesn't map neatly onto pay (see, e.g., educators, social workers, etc.) but it does capture the greater degree of human capital involved in doing the job.
Tl;dr: I think this meme's framing conflates two different and widely used meanings for the term "skill" in the employment context and, as a result, courts strident disagreement that well-meaning Mastodonians will charge into head-first.
ghost_shit@LRRRonEarth Does "being born to rich parents" count as a skill, or is that more like an achievement?