HaraldDec 21, 2023
Deyan Ginev

📢 arXiv just landed HTML articles!

Try them out, report issues you run into, and expect a gradual process for increasing coverage.

They're starting small - HTML for new articles only.

That complements today's ar5iv nicely, which lags 1 month behind.

#arxiv #ar5iv #openscience #openaccess

Dec 18, 2023 at 5:11pmWeb
Show threadDeyan GinevDec 18, 2023

Speaking of: ar5iv is now on a clear path to getting phased out, becoming a simple redirect service to the official HTML pages.

This is the best outcome I could have hoped for!

arXiv was always the best actor to manage the publishing platform pieces, while we have plenty to do in the LaTeXML conversion realm.

Show threadDeyan GinevDec 18, 2023

🤔 Why is this happening?

The chief motivation for 2023 is improving accessibility of arXiv's collection of articles.

For more details, see arXiv's introduction at:
https://info.arxiv.org/about/accessible_HTML.html

accessible HTML - arXiv info

Show threadCharles Tapley HoytDec 18, 2023
@dginev this is great, congratulations on the big success!
Show threadDan Drake 🦆Dec 18, 2023

@dginev that's amazing...and only, like, 20 years overdue!

(Seriously, 20 years ago we had reasonable enough HTML rendering for LaTeX; they could have had something like this back in my grad school days. But better late than never!)

Show threadDeyan GinevDec 18, 2023

@ddrake Better late than never is right!

Also, HTML in 2023 is a tiny bit better than it used to be back then. I have a classic arXiv submission that was deposited as raw HTML way back when, quite the difference:

https://arxiv.org/html/astro-ph/9708066

Message Passing P3M

Show threadDima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱Dec 18, 2023
@dginev @ddrake I wish lualatex support with unicode will land soon too 🙂
Show threadDeyan GinevDec 18, 2023
@dimpase @ddrake And I wish lualatex offered an easy path to HTML ...
Show threadDima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱Dec 18, 2023
@dginev @ddrake have you looked at ConTeXt/LuaMetaTeX (lmtx ?) ?
Show threadDeyan GinevDec 18, 2023
@dimpase @ddrake A little. I have the same wish for them too...
Show threadDima Pasechnik 🇺🇦 🇳🇱Dec 18, 2023

@dginev @ddrake anyway, absence of an easy html backend should not preclude lualatex (or xelatex) support in arXiv.

It's a shame that people still cannot submit texts using unicode-math without much extra pain to arXiv.

Show threadDeyan GinevDec 18, 2023
@dimpase @ddrake yep, anyway, good luck with that!
Show threadamiloradovskyDec 18, 2023
@dginev and the math rendering is based on #MathML, nice touch
Stereophonic

Show threadisomorphismesDec 19, 2023
@dginev thank you!!!
Show threadYann Büchau Dec 19, 2023

@dginev Nice, I would really like to try it but I find it very hard to find a 'new' article. Does one really need to browse through every single category on its own? Or is there a page that just lists all articles in order of submission?

EDIT: Found an article now, btw: https://browse.arxiv.org/html/2312.10050v1

Mapping the Universe with Gamma-Ray Bursts

Show threadDeyan GinevDec 19, 2023

@nobodyinperson

I am told the index pages will get [html] shortcut links at some point soon as well, for that kind of extra convenience.

You can preview those from the "browse." subdomain, say for example cs.LG:

https://browse.arxiv.org/list/cs.LG/recent

Machine Learning

Show threadYann Büchau Dec 19, 2023
@dginev Yeah, these are per-category. I guess one needs to browse each category separately, then.
Show threadDeyan GinevDec 19, 2023

@nobodyinperson

Yep, per-category browsing is the usual norm. It would take a rare polymath to read all of arXiv in-order on an equal basis. I don't think such a human exists really.

Technically I do that a lot when improving the HTML conversions, but I don't read the content, I study the syntax.