Dare ObasanjoDec 14, 2023

I was wondering why I can’t follow people from Threads on Mastodon and found out it’s because the server I’m on has blocked interoperability with Threads.

Wow, so what are my options here? Nag the admins? Switch my account to a different server? What do I lose if I do that? Which one do I switch to? 🤔

https://www.threads.net/@thatadamguy/post/C02Bv7LPmET/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Show threadDare ObasanjoDec 14, 2023

It sounds like if I switch servers on Mastodon then I’ll lose my post history. Given that I expect I’ll just stop posting on Mastodon when Threads fediverse integration is done and instead will ask Mastodon users to follow my Threads account.

This actually helps consolidate my text-based social media accounts down to one.

Show threadVissDec 14, 2023
@carnage4life many many people are opposed to threads, even just in general. there were instructions circulating yesterday about how to block the entire domain. moving to threads is going to decimate your audience
Show threadLocksmithDec 14, 2023
@Viss @carnage4life It seems to be it is too early for such opposition... is that because Threads is from Meta?
Show threadVissDec 14, 2023

@locksmithprime @carnage4life yes, and nobody trusts them. at all. nobody is happy that they intend to hoover up data, produce ads, train AIs and other stuff people abjectly came to masto to avoid.

also, the relationship is one-way. masto can see threads, threads cant see masto.

so moving to threads means losing the ability to interact with your audience entirely.

Show threadcarbon offsets are BS ☕️🥬Dec 15, 2023

@Viss @locksmithprime @carnage4life

How is federating making it any easier to Hoover up data? You can view all this without an account.

Show threadVissDec 15, 2023
@plasma4045 @locksmithprime @carnage4life programatic firehose-level api access to the backend is a very different architectural engineering lift. a way easier one. thats sanctioned. as opposed to individually scraping servers on a onsie twosie basis
Show threadWowSuchCyberDec 15, 2023
@Viss @plasma4045 @locksmithprime @carnage4life that's a thing they could do by just having a quiet instance anyway...
Show threadVissDec 15, 2023

@WowSuchCyber @plasma4045 @locksmithprime @carnage4life technically, perhaps, depending on their config. but i estimate that once they were found out, a majority of instances would instantly block them outright.

they lied to congress and the senate MULTIPLE TIMES and got away with it. there is zero reason to trust facebook ever again.

Show threadWowSuchCyberDec 15, 2023
@Viss @plasma4045 @locksmithprime @carnage4life oh yes, I'm not trying to defend them here, I'm against Meta. But I think it's kinda moot to try to hide a content that is inherently public to one of the largest and most capable internet company...
I can hear potential issues with contribution to the protocol and there's clearly something to do there.
But stopping them from collecting data, I think it's impossible.
Show threadViss

@WowSuchCyber @plasma4045 @locksmithprime @carnage4life it is quite possible. from a legal standpoint, getting the firehose from twitter is asking one legal team for permission.

getting the same from mastodon? when every server has a unique admin with their own unique set of rules? good luck. every server is a unique entity with its own terms of service. every server is its own unique legal entity.

trying to do big public scrapes is noisy, burdensome and makes them look really bad.

Dec 15, 2023 at 5:59amWeb
Show threadVissDec 15, 2023

@WowSuchCyber @plasma4045 @locksmithprime @carnage4life so its in their best interest to get some kind of api level access. which they now have. but even still, they are at the mercy of the existing fleet of servers out there.

this access will allow them to taillor their existing bullshit and disinformation machine to grapple with activitypub.

its going to get ugly and fucked, just like cambrige analytica. its practically guaranteed. they got away with murder, so they'll keep murdering