Eugen Rochko
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π #woke@Gargron I haven't moved to Fediverse for Metaverse to extand its arms over my data here as well. The interoperability shouldn't result in the enforcement of the GAFAM economic model on all of us outside it. And I'm afraid Meta will try to impose it's logic on the whole Fediverse if we allow it.
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Fabianγγγ‘γγ’γ³γπ³οΈβπ@ariane the fediverse wont protect your data. It's public data. Doesn't matter who your instance is federating with
@fabiscafe Actually, it does by refusing to collect and use my data to create new products sold to third-parties, that is advertisers. This is the real issue. Not the fact that you make something public or not. And I don't wish for Meta to extand this economic model to the fediverse.
@ariane They dont need to be on the fediverse to grab your data from the fediverse. 
@fabiscafe Yeah, well, it is a whole lot more complicated for them to do anything with data grabbed on the fediverse than it it has been published on their plateform or on systems that follow their ecoonomic model. Also, it is a lot more illegal for them to do so without consent. There is definitely a world of economic, legal and political difference between privately-owned blackboxed plateforms like Meta and collective social networks like the fediverse.
@ariane The fact that you deferate with them doesnt change anything of this. It actually helps you protecting your privacy if your instance federates with them, as you can reas posting out if your instances cache instead of going to the website of the post to read them.
@fabiscafe actually, yes, it does. It changes everything. The issue here isn't about publicly available data or not. It isn't about security either. It's really about the possibility to control what is done and not done with it. If meta is introduced into the Fediverse, I'm afraid it will suck it up completely and eventually impose its economic model of mass surveillance to the whole federation.
craftycat@fabiscafe @ariane This is true, and is true for the vast majority of anything that exists on the internet, anyone can access anything. That doesn't mean that what I post on here should be spoonfed to a billionaire so he can choose whether or not to target me with nazi advertisements. Most people left Meta to avoid just that.
@craftycat sounds quite a bit over the top.
@fabiscafe It's simple facts, I don't know what you gain from pretending otherwise.
@craftycat OK. Thats bad. I still doubt the nazi advertisment will hit the fediverse. In fact I think we wont see any ads from threads (except users do them, of course)