Mastodawn

I love vim

https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/7527930

I love vim - tchncs

I am a vscodium [https://vscodium.com/] user who has begun to get increasingly frustrated over lack of commands to do some simple things. So, as a longtime GNU/Linux user, who only knew basic commands to survive in vim, I decided to change my habits. installed flavours of neovim(lunarvim, nvchad, and astronvim, in that order) and started tinerking. then switched to kick start.nvim [https://github.com/nvim-lua/kickstart.nvim]. on Android, I’m using plain neovim since there seems to be some missing lib for mason, the neovim package manager. passing away of Bram Moolenaar has made me accelerate faster towards the day where my machine would be clean of any electron bloat. I’m still very much a novice, and continue using codium in office, but I am committed to using neovim as I believe it’s truly a great editor(second to Emacs, of course). — image transcription: famous still of Nicholas cage with his eyes closed, smiling as his hair flow. above it is the text that reads, ‘learning about ci" in vim.’

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

explanation for the command ci":
c: change. analogous to delete(d) followed by insert(i)
i: inside
": the double quote
so, it’s basically change inside double quote(easier to remember as it sounds exactly what it does).
you can similarly do di((delete inside parenthesis).

an inferior alternative on vscodium would be shift + alt + right/left arrow

ExLisper Dec 9, 2023

What about yi’'?

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

that also works. thought users would figure that out.

Jumuta Dec 9, 2023

I love vim and vim based editors.

I used to use stock Vim but recently I’ve started using Helix which is like a more user friendly version of vim (copying to clipboard is easy) and I’m loving it!

Helix

A post-modern modal text editor.

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

wow, good to know that there are still terminal-based text editors being developed.

I’ll surely try it.

Jumuta Dec 9, 2023

Helix is pretty cool, I think the Lemmy devs use it too.

I use it because it’s purple and I like purple.

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

royal choice, I see :)

BeardedGingerWonder Dec 9, 2023

If it’s easier to use how are we supposed to keep the Emacs people away?

sickday Dec 9, 2023

+1 for Helix. I found it recently and it feels way easier to make changes and add support for new languages.

cygnus Dec 9, 2023

Whoa that website’s demo video is selectable text that plays like a video

gen/Eric Dec 9, 2023

Looks like it’s using asciinema.org

Record and share your terminal sessions, the simple way - asciinema.org

MigratingtoLemmy Dec 9, 2023

If only they would support vim keybindings

starman Dec 10, 2023

mi"

driveway Jan 1, 2024

Helix’s editing model is much more preferable to vim’s for me but the editor is not at all hackable so I can’t daily drive it yet. Unfortunately, the development is not going that fast either. It takes months for my PRs to be even reviewed for the first time, let alone merge.

0x4E4F Dec 9, 2023

Shit, I barely remebered :q to exit the damn thing 😂.

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

opening vim and hitting every key on a keyboard to exit it makes for a strong password.

Ooops Dec 9, 2023

You just type ZZ... then the program assumes you fell asleep trying to exit and stops.

kubica Dec 9, 2023

q, q, q, Esc, Esc, Esc, q, q, Esc, Esc, q:, q:, asdf, asdf, asdf, Esc, Esc, Alt+F4

0x4E4F Dec 9, 2023

Yep, exactly like that when I first opened Vi/Vim 🤣.

TheInsane42 Dec 9, 2023

Nop, not here. (BTW that was in '89)

However when opening emacs in '94 I opened an xterm to kill it (on IRIX).

Ugly Bob Dec 9, 2023

Y’all motherfuckers need vimtutor

OmnislashIsACloudApp Dec 13, 2023

exactly lol, not too bad after you learn a few things.

also vim adventures is a fun way to learn!

WhosMansIsThis Dec 9, 2023

I can see you’re a person of culture.

somenonewho Dec 9, 2023

Funny I had to Google ci" to remember what it does even though I use that sometimes.

I’ve committed to learning vim years ago and in most situations im faster in vim than in nano etc. (especially because of muscle memory) I still feel like I’m not properly using vim to it’s full extend (like whenever I remember using registers it feels like magick and I’m sure there’s more like that)

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

how often do you use macros on a day-to-day basis? it’s next on my learning list.

dukk Dec 10, 2023

I personally use them pretty often. They’re not natural to me, I spend a little bit thinking about them, but they’re still decently useful.

puppy Dec 9, 2023

TIL. Thanks OP. I have been using “d” followed by “i” all this time.

cabhan Dec 9, 2023

For what it’s worth, you can replace xi with just s or c

puppy Dec 13, 2023

Thanks!

fhang Dec 9, 2023

I have been using Vim for over 3 years now and still learning new things. Today I learned about ci". Thank you.

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

vim’s shortcuts like these are giving me 'gasms and regret(that I wasted so many collective hours using Ctrl + arrow/mouse over this). it’s a weird feeling.

and yeah, you never learn vim. you just learn it enough.

A7thStone Dec 9, 2023

second to Emacs, of course.

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

wanna bet how long til I switch to Emacs :p

finestnothing Dec 9, 2023

Wait til he learns about doom emacs which is emacs + vim keybinds (and a lot of other QOL features)

Emacs is a great OS with a bad editor
Vim is a great editor with a bad OS

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

Jesus Christ. you’re telling me this now?
I had heard about doom emacs, but never bothered to really look into it.
there goes my weekend.

32b99410_da5b Dec 9, 2023

Doom is EVIL! github.com/emacs-evil/evil

Well, Doom has Evil, evil collection, etc enabled by default. But that’s less quippy.

GitHub - emacs-evil/evil: The extensible vi layer for Emacs.

The extensible vi layer for Emacs. Contribute to emacs-evil/evil development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

rtxn Dec 10, 2023

DistroTube is a great source for Doom-related knowledge (as long as you ignore his “old man yells at cloud” videos).

Black616Angel Dec 10, 2023

Lol, haven’t heard that name in a long time.

I watched him for a while and even kinda liked some of his “old man yells art cloud” videos, but he lost me around the time of his “explaining Linux to newbies” video.

lemmesay Dec 10, 2023

thanks to your comment, I looked up a couple of his videos. Emacs(especially org mode) sounds very interesting. I’ll be investing more time in it.

cally [he/they]Dec 10, 2023

Vim is a great editor without an OS*

fl42v Dec 10, 2023

((((((((((🗿))))))))))

bonjour123 Dec 9, 2023

Now that you know about ci(, I highly recommend taking a look at tpope’s plugins. Especially the surround plugin. It can change the surrounding parentheses and tags (if you’re editing an HTML or XML document). Quite cool. Also, there’s much more in tpope’s library of pugins.

PS, did you know that zsh has a vi mode, where you can use typical vi commands to edit the command prompt instead after the default ones? Quite useful as well.

GitHub - tpope/vim-surround: surround.vim: Delete/change/add parentheses/quotes/XML-tags/much more with ease

surround.vim: Delete/change/add parentheses/quotes/XML-tags/much more with ease - tpope/vim-surround

GitHub

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

whoa, that guy is really a vim plugin artist. imma go and install it now. thanks for sharing!

I don’t have much experience with zsh other than using it on office mac. but will try it anyway.

bonjour123 Dec 9, 2023

If you’re going to check out zsh, make sure to take a look at oh my zsh! There’s a lot to explore there, but the plugins are cool.

Oh My Zsh - a delightful & open source framework for Zsh

Oh My Zsh is a popular open-source Zsh configuration framework loved by developers worldwide. It includes 300+ plugins, themes, and tweaks to supercharge your terminal experience.

Oh My Zsh!

Vegoon Dec 9, 2023

set -o vi / emacs works in bash too

s_s Dec 9, 2023

passing away of Bram Moolenaar has made me accelerate faster towards the day where my machine would be clean of any electron bloat.

Was he electroncuted or something?

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

bram was a chad, mate. I once opened vim without any file(just plain vi) and saw help poor children in Uganda. read whole uganda.txt file and then saw how his organisation is fully involved in getting material benefits to the ground. further went down the rabbithole and saw his org’s photos in uganda.
made me really appreciate the man.

to answer your punny question, he was ill.

Health update

Eager Eagle Dec 10, 2023

just wait until they hear about electricity

cyrl Dec 9, 2023

You can also put vim inside VSCode via extensions!

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

I tried it twice. it require enabling affinity support, which causes vscodium to freezes after an hour of use. might be an issue just on my machine, but it made be use just nvim :)

nakal Dec 9, 2023

I've been using vim/neovim for more than a decade. Here are my favorite plugins (ranked):

junegunn/fzf
junegunn/fzf.vim
bling/vim-airline
airblade/vim-gitgutter
w0rp/ale
Shougo/deoplete.nvim
tpope/vim-surround
tpope/vim-fugitive
tpope/vim-unimpaired

lemmesay Dec 9, 2023

thanks! I’ll check your curated list out.

HeartyOfGlass Dec 10, 2023

I can’t live without fzf. I hope junegunn is as happy as a human can be.

Danny M Dec 10, 2023

Bonus tip:

ci" means change inside “” ca" means change around “”

the " can be replaced with any of: `({[

lemmesay Dec 10, 2023

thanks for the insightful comment. I’ve saved it for future reference.

fl42v Dec 10, 2023

The best moment for me was when i understood how it works in general (I.e. <command><range>) and stopped just memorizing stuff