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Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮People and SEO Spam like this are ruining the internet. Fuck this shite.
Yaksh Bariya@gamingonlinux What? First of all they did such a anti-competitive move and then are bragging about it on Twitter/X/that deadbird site which should have died
Deuchnord@CodingThunder @gamingonlinux "we have cheated our competitor's SEO with fake articles on our website and we're so proud of it we wanted to tell everyone how unethical we are"
(Matthew)=> 🏳️🌈🇿🇦🎮💻📖@Deuchnord @CodingThunder @gamingonlinux I think what makes me angry isn't that they did it, if they delisted all their web garbage or were just trying to make a point about how bad it is that this is absurdly easy to do, like, yeah. Google wastes resources on obviously bad idea products and neglects the one thing they made that people actually like.
But like... He's just proud. Like a speedrunner who just found an infinite money glitch. He thinks he struck gold.
Wolf480pl@mdstevens0612 @Deuchnord @CodingThunder @gamingonlinux Speedrunners don't usually ruin the game for everyone else.
I think a better comparison would be a Tarkov cheat developer.
I think a better comparison would be a Tarkov cheat developer.
@Deuchnord @gamingonlinux Yeah that's so so unethical especially when you are simply feeding LLM/AI crap to people looking for legitamate problems. I would definitely never even consider any product from such an unethical company ever.
Also the web now is such a mess and still many wonder why adblockers exist.ckers is not at all possible for someone who has to use the internet for majority of his stuff. Yeah many good creators get punished by this, but imagining web without adblo
Dm G@CodingThunder @Deuchnord @gamingonlinux AI can now sound like it has useful information but it does not actually have it. I try to enter lots of proper nouns into my search query in hopes of finding pages with more information in them. Google does not really like this and ignores most of the proper nouns for any given page so results turn out mixed.
Pēteris Krišjānis@gamingonlinux I really want to vomit reading this
Dani ᴇsᴄ@gamingonlinux That's absolutely disgusting.
Renato, aka Krull@gamingonlinux ah well like most of spam I get, my thoughts are “wow congrats. But I don’t care about competitors stealing stuff”
Fuchsiii~~~@gamingonlinux I rly wish google would start rating on quality metrics a lot more.
Marc@gamingonlinux imagine being proud of this level of twattery. What a bellend.
Dagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥@mdiluz
I was thinking exactly the same, where do these people get these ideas? What happened? Oh wait, profit, right?
Anꞇóin Ó B.SEO is the industrialisation of a race to the bottom in an information economy, performed by nerds who only are valued in an information economy.
witchsui@gamingonlinux I think there will come a time where SEO farms pollute the web so much that search engines will just stop being a reliable way of finding stuff in the internet
Accept purpose.@witchsui @gamingonlinux Some would say that we have been there for some time now.
@laprice @gamingonlinux Yeah at this point I usually always find more useful things if I lookup exclusively on reddit, but search engines can still be SOMEWHAT useful if you can spot the SEO farms.
With LLM crap, either search engines seriously change the way they promote results which they wont, or we just eventually stop using search engines. Might have to go back to webrings or something.
With LLM crap, either search engines seriously change the way they promote results which they wont, or we just eventually stop using search engines. Might have to go back to webrings or something.
Andrew@laprice @witchsui @gamingonlinux I mean long before AI there've been websites that host nothing but thousands of near identical articles called "What Is 14 Factorial" or similar because writing one page with a three-line Javascript calculator on it doesn't come up in search and can only host one page worth of ads.
Steven Hilton@witchsui @gamingonlinux we're getting close to that now.
PropaGandalf@witchsui
@gamingonlinux
Instead we will most likely rely on self hosted, curated and non profit search engines in the future. The better ones probably being invite only.
@gamingonlinux
Instead we will most likely rely on self hosted, curated and non profit search engines in the future. The better ones probably being invite only.
@gamingonlinux Wow, and they proudly use the verb "steal" to describe what they did 🤷
That's like boasting about stealing someone's bag at a bus.
That's like boasting about stealing someone's bag at a bus.
Børge@gamingonlinux It's a good thing we keep pouring billions into AI to make more shit like this!
your_huckleberry@gamingonlinux some men just want to watch the world burn.
🇳𝗮ꜟ𝖼𝘩@your_huckleberry @gamingonlinux
Some men are happy to turn everything to shit for everyone if it makes them a little bit more money.
Some men are happy to turn everything to shit for everyone if it makes them a little bit more money.
localzuk@gamingonlinux he's so proud to make the Web a worse place.
mark@gamingonlinux well, at least now we really know why search results are a pile of shit
Adam CafollaThe thing is... is there even any profit or gain in this?
Are the people visiting shitty AI generated articles actually buying anything or clicking on Ads or whatever?
If not, what's the point?
Or is it just yet another grift where he can use this as evidence to sell some kind of course or service where he helps others to do the same?
H. Mantegazzi@adaliabooks @gamingonlinux most people don't use ad blockers, so they'll get revenue by showing them lots and lots of ads
andrei!@adaliabooks @gamingonlinux They don’t seem to measure that - just traffic.
Which on it's own is a fairly useless metric.
Are people staying and reading the articles? Or are they immediately closing and bouncing away to something else?
Anyone doing anything serious with data on the internet will know that kind of stuff, so if they're not telling you what engagement is like it's likely because it's bad.
People like this are polluting the internet and ruining search just to get a bigger meaningless number.
@adaliabooks @gamingonlinux I agree with all of the above. I’m pointing out the limitations of using shallow metrics to measure performance and success. Which success is likely tied to money rewards.
If there’s no measurement to distinguish crap traffic from useful traffic then it’s all “good traffic”.
I wasn't meaning that post as an attack on what you'd said. Sorry if it sounded like it was.
inkorrupt @ chaos@gamingonlinux This is why the small web is the future, and these SEO/AI people should be defederated here (in the Fediverse) on sight.
Cassandrich@gamingonlinux Seems like a confession to commercial fraud.
flere-imsaho 🇺🇦@dalias @gamingonlinux these folks are always too clever by half and never not wise enough.
MaineC@dalias @gamingonlinux likely that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Back when everyone was impressed about Google's reaction to ChatGPT and taking that as a sign that Google feared a competitor coming up with a better interface to search I kept wondering why nobody saw the much more immediate thread of LLMs used for SEO...
@dalias @gamingonlinux what surprises me though is that this SEO approach wasn't spotted automatically and the effect throttled.
@dalias @gamingonlinux auto generated sites have been a problem for search engines like forever (think keyword stuffing, link farms...)
@mainec @gamingonlinux Google loves SEO spam for some reason. No way it could be cos it has Google ads all over it... 🤔
@dalias @gamingonlinux decades ago they say least fought against low quality spam and ran a program teaching how to gain in ranking with more effort but also higher quality content.
@mainec @gamingonlinux Yes, "decades ago" is doing the heavy lifting.
@dalias @gamingonlinux decades ago as in back when people like him were there: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Cutts
MJJ Mori@gamingonlinux And he sounds so proud!
dizzyspiral 
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...is anyone else annoyed that he's using the word "traffic" like it's a unit of measure?
...is anyone else annoyed that he's using the word "traffic" like it's a unit of measure?
🌚JR🌝@gamingonlinux I’m sure this useless bastard refers to himself as a ‘disruptor’.
Apicultor 🐝@gamingonlinux >We got 489,509 traffic in October alone
If I inject 3 traffic today, is this how it ends?
Catherine is not complacent@gamingonlinux and this is why I support brick and mortar libraries.
Andreu Casablanca 🐀It worries me that some people believe it's ok to brag about these shitty behaviours & attitudes in the open (It most certainly means that they have a wide audience who also believe the same; which is even worse than the publicised fact in itself).
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen@castarco @gamingonlinux no, I love that techbros are so full of themselves that they think they will get away with it while producing damning evidence. Reminds me of the dumb thieves who post their loot on TikTok because trey want to show how «gangsta» they are.
Robin Bradshaw@gamingonlinux Thats 489509 people who now think that company is trash for wasting their time with AI generated chaff pages, the company will die like kelkoo¦bizrate¦pixmania¦dealtime¦pricerunner¦dooyoo¦pricegrabber¦pricewatch¦
resellerratings¦shopbot¦comparestoreprices¦ciao¦unbeatable¦shopping¦epinions¦nextag and may others who tried that before them
resellerratings¦shopbot¦comparestoreprices¦ciao¦unbeatable¦shopping¦epinions¦nextag and may others who tried that before them
dmi 💽 @gamingonlinux at no point did they ask themselves “does this benefit anyone, really”
BeeCycling has moved@gamingonlinux What a frigging leech.
agatha 
@gamingonlinux this kinda fails to consider that those "ai articles" are useless because they have no actual information and likely will make your company look bad
Dęndy :anim_teams_rabbit: @agatha @gamingonlinux That doesn't matter as long as the numbers keep getting bigger. Dunno about the long run or if that makes enough of an impact to matter but my pessimistic self doesn't believe that's going to do much and number is going to be greater than the start anyway 
noi@gamingonlinux
I love that he is bragging about this like it's something to be proud of. What a bellend, actively contributing to the already poor state of search engine results
I love that he is bragging about this like it's something to be proud of. What a bellend, actively contributing to the already poor state of search engine results
@gamingonlinux yacy.net build Your own SEO resistant search engine ;)
bad sneakers@gamingonlinux it really has made the search experience bleak.
Chozo@gamingonlinux Imagine posting something like this and being proud of it. What an absolute tool.
Ought to be illegal, imo. In fact, it sounds like it's bordering on copyright infringement as it is.
Ought to be illegal, imo. In fact, it sounds like it's bordering on copyright infringement as it is.
івась тарасикif this is internet of today, imagine what it will be tomorrow.