Sy TaffelNov 27, 2023

'In a bid to reduce global electronic waste, Fairphone has created a smartphone that owners can repair themselves. What makes its technology so sustainable?'

As the article makes clear, #Fairphones aren't #sustainable.

But because they're repairable, modular, source some (not all) materials ethically, and will roll out software updates for longer than most their competitors they're a hell of a lot better than most of the blatantly ecocidal alternatives.

https://www.fairphone.com/en/2021/10/25/recycling-program/

Reintroducing: Fairphone's Reuse & Recycle Program - Fairphone

We have relaunched our Reuse and Recycle Program. There are a lot of resources in your old smartphones and we want to make sure we make the most out of them, all the while keeping the environmental impact low and your benefits high. While the old program allowed people to send in their old phones […]

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Show threadBrett Glass - WY7BG
@sy Unfortunately, I see that this phone uses Android and Google apps. This means that Google will be spying on it, and you. I am looking for an alternative that does not allow this.
Nov 28, 2023 at 3:26amWeb
Show threadSy TaffelNov 28, 2023
@brettglass https://murena.com/ might be worth a look?
Murena - deGoogled phones and services

Murena store Say NO to Big-Tech! Freedom starts with privacy. Protect your freedom and your family's privacy with Murena smartphones Buy Now Discover Murena Workspace Protect your data from Big Tech with Murena Workspace Private Email Agendaand Calendar SecureOnline Drive Powerful Suiteof Office Tools Seamless integrationwith our phones. Open Source Hostedin Europe…

Murena - deGoogled phones and services
Show threadBrett Glass - WY7BGNov 30, 2023
@sy AFAIK, the "fairphone" runs Android. That means it can never be free of Google spyware.
Show threadSy TaffelNov 30, 2023

@brettglass read the link?

'Our smartphones are running the open-source “/e/OS” operating system, which is fully “deGoogled”: by default it doesn’t send any data to Google and it’s been designed to offer a great and natural user experience.

/e/OS is paired with carefully selected applications. They form a privacy-enabled internal system for your Murena smartphone. And it’s not just claims: open-source means auditable privacy.'

Show threadBrett Glass - WY7BGNov 30, 2023
@sy Google has done everything possible to ensure that Android can't be "de-Googled." What's more, if you can't use the Google Play store, you can't run apps that are necessary to operate some IoT products. So long as they're in the Android universe, they can't be free of Google.
Show threadSy TaffelNov 30, 2023

@brettglass

/e/OS is a “deGoogled” version of Android OS. It has an open-source Android OS core, with no Google apps or Google services accessing your personal data.

Google default search engine has been removed from the OS everywhere and replaced with our meta-search engine
Google Services have been replaced by microG
Connectivity checks do not use Google servers
We do not use Google’s Network Time Protocol servers
We do not use Google’s DNS servers

https://e.foundation/e-os/

/e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data

ECOSYSTEMKEY FEATURESGET /E/OSNEED HELP /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled”, mobile ecosystem /e/OS is an open-source mobile operating system paired with carefully selected applications. They form a privacy-enabled internal system for your smartphone. And it’s not just claims: open-source means auditable privacy. /e/OS has received academic recognition from researchers at…

Show threadSy TaffelNov 30, 2023

@brettglass given that it's all open source you should be able to verify if the claims they make aren't true.

Which would be quite disappointing given that e /os is meant to be a privacy focussed deGoogled system

Show threadBrett Glass - WY7BGNov 30, 2023
@sy It's not all open source. The Google apps and the Google Play apps aren't open source... and some of Android isn't. Wish it were. Basically, if it's Android, it's always going to be suspect. We need a cell phone OS that's free and clear of surveillance capitalism interests.
Show threadSy TaffelNov 30, 2023

@brettglass which part of e / os doesn't use any Google apps are you struggling to understand? Because responding to that by saying it uses Google apps isn't helpful.

E/os is open source. All of it. Again, just saying it isn't is plain wrong. If they're nefariously using Google apps or proprietary Google code or sending data to Google's servers when they very clearly say that they are not it wouldn't be hard to unveil.

Show threadBrett Glass - WY7BGNov 30, 2023
@sy Not "struggling" with anything. They say in their description that it runs Google apps and apps from the Google Play store.