@noondlyt

If someone says they are thinking about voting for a third party, ask them to name every member of congress that party has. ... It's none. Then ask them to name every state-level elected official they have. The Libertarian Party has 1 and the Green Party as none.

There isn't a third option, because no third party even tries to win at the state level. It's always President or Bust.

@mrblissett @csstrowbridge @noondlyt

There are only two parties and that is the case for my lifetime and I am now an ancient Dem.

The frauds from hell took enough of the vote to result in Bush and Trump in office.

It should have been Gore and Hillary - etc. They are full of crap spoilers, grifters and liars.

@KFClinton @mrblissett @csstrowbridge @noondlyt Did you forget Perot, who gave Clinton the win in '92?

Just because the billionaires have cornered the political market doesn't mean that I have to vote for their candidates.

It's the duty of prisoners to try to escape. :)

@grumble209 @mrblissett @csstrowbridge @noondlyt

You do not know much about the parties and who pushes the candidates of the Greens for starters.

Moscow came up with "Grow a spine and vote for Stein" and many other ads/slogans. It was uncovered by the massive investigations after the debacle.

The GOP was also doing as Putin wished, we have the evidence for years.

I am a proud Dem. We are the sane party.

Not a prisoner, a lifelong volunteer to grow the sane party.

@KFClinton @mrblissett @csstrowbridge @noondlyt Yup - Greens in the US are a scam, and I'm embarrassed to say I was snookered.

Not sure that's a compelling reason to vote for a warmonger like Biden. I'd hold my nose and vote for him if the Dems would pass some campaign finance legislation, though.

Otherwise I'll stick with "None of the Above".

Weird - the track record that the Dems proudly tout (New Deal, Social Security, Welfare, Voting Rights, Civil Rights) were all lefty policies that they'd never support these days. And yet the Dems seem to expect modern lefties to support them. Nope. Politics is quid pro quo.

@noondlyt @KFClinton @mrblissett @csstrowbridge Some Dems are fighting hard. Some Dems are not fighting.

Our two parties, funded by a divided ruling class, prevent even wildly popular change (like campaign finance reform, plugging tax loopholes) from happening.

I see 2024 as between 3 decades of run-of-the-mill asshole billionaires and 4 decades of awful-bad asshole billionaires. Corporatism vs quasi-fascism, if you like. I hate both, and I'd rather see the wheels come off the system than keep it limping along and not just passively postponing reform, but actively working against reform.

Because once the wheels come off, we *might *have a chance to fix the obsolete things in the Constitution (like the Electoral College and FPTP). As long as we're limping along, nothing meaningful will change for the better. Or it could get even worse. But I trust Americans.

But, I'll hold my nose and vote Blue if the Dems reform something. Because politics is quid pro quo.