A Novel Approach to Yotube Ads

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A Novel Approach to Yotube Ads - Lemmy.World

Instead of blocking them, this extension speeds them up to x16. Experiencing a 30 second ad in 2 seconds is pretty funny. And it works on Edge and Chrome.

Or use Firefox

My ff got hit by the blanket ‘no fire fox’ issue. Now even with no mods youtube won’t work at all.

Downloaded free tube. Keep thinking to make some kinda macro to auto switch to it when I search in ff search bar.

yes let me rely on 9to5google.com for the best methods to still allow youtube to still retain revenue on my views. Nice try google
On the other hand, this will royally piss off advertisers if it takes off. Make Google play a losing game of whack a mole with a ton of options on how to subvert their annoying platform

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too. This add-on subverts the TrueView advertisement (or impression how they call it) that Google promises to advertisers.

I’m on the edge of what to think of it. Blocking ads primarily hurts Google since bidding never occurs and this speedup thing mainly hurts advertisers but also puts Google in an awkward situation.

uBlock Origin is still working just fine for me.
Am I the only one experiencing little 1-2 second jitters? It’s as if it skips where an ad should be. I still don’t see an ad though.

While some paid ad blockers seem to work, the vast majority of tools don’t seem to do the trick.

What a bunch of FUD. Firefox and uBlock Origin still work on Youtube just fine.

Part of the reason I am not advocating for or against the extension or the source. People can judge for themselves. I thought it was funny (not a great idea but defined an interesting implementation). For the record I use both unlock origin and Firefox, and I also run a pihole at home. I’m just putting out there that it exists.
Maybe they mean the vast majority of tools on Edge and Chrome?
uBlock still works on chrome.
It's not on and can't be on Manifest v3 which Chrome will later only support
I moved back to Firefox like 5 years ago. But saying the vast majority of tools don’t seem to do the trick is a pretty true statement, since that’s one browser with one app, and the browser only has a sub 10% market share.
Yeah but uBlock Origin still works on Chrome too
It amazes me that ublock is still available for crime.

(for now)

It will stop working soon

I don’t know about FUD, but that’s either straight-up disinformation, or an out-of-touch tech writer that needs to retire…
uBO works on Chrome as well atm. I have to use Chrome on my work laptop, but at least they installed uBO.
Some people on HN say that creating ad blockers for YouTube is a waste of time. Google’s not going to remove in-video ads either way.
Everyone’s hating on this approach but I think it’s nice that we have other options. I’m sure Ublock is going to come out on top of this cat and mouse game YouTube is playing with them, but if YouTube manages to temporarily disable Ublock I’ll look into this solution. Thanks!
That’s why I tried to present it without an anti-google seeming bias. I wanted people to just have the facts and not all the BS in the article. I think it’s a good option for people who don’t want to block ads so creators they watch benefit.
Google will give up eventually. They’re definitely burning more money than they would gain from winning the battle
They give on everything else all the time. I wonder if expanding their ad business is the one exception though. They ran out of new users and already pack videos full of ads. Forcing them on people who block them is the only thing left for them to attempt as they seek to continue perpetual growth.
Unfortunately the videos with ads absolutely packed through them are largely due to the creators choosing the settings for extra monetization.
Content creators can choose how many ads show, if at all? I did know that, thank you.

Youtube just made changes that prevent creators from choosing to only allow skippable ads. Now youtube chooses what type of ads to run at the start and end of a video.

The only choice creators have is to enable or disable mid-roll ads, and where to place them (but the default is to allow youtube to make those choices too)

Ads are the very core of Google at this point. They are more likely to give up their search engine and the name Google before they give up their ad business.
I don’t think they’ve gone all in yet.
They can’t. Not without hurting some misinfornation laws or two.
I do not believe that is the case. Youtube ads are an insanely profitable business. I suspect throwing a couple dozen of FTEs on blocking ad blockers would be <1% of current revenue.

I don’t doubt they make tonnes of revenue from ads however you have to remember how small the share of adblocker users are. So the extra money from fighting the adblock user base is a clear gamble. Especially as those types of users are the ones who are more likely to avoid YouTube completely if they can’t bypass ads.

Someone in Google would have done the research because it’s not a simple case of adblockusers * ad revenue per user

To be fair, at the current monopolistic state of YouTube, how many people are actually likely to avoid YouTube completely?
If YouTube truly succeeded in forcing 90 seconds of unavoidable ads with no exceptions without paying $20/month then I genuinely think YouTube won’t be a monopoly for very long.
How can a new competitor acquire content creators to actually threaten the monopoly? Genuine question.
Sub question. How can a competitor handle Google dropping ads and/or pricing and run at a loss until the competitor is bought or destroyed outright? Google has too much money and existing infrastructure for someone other than say Amazon to compete with YouTube and god help us if that’s the alternative we get.
They can’t. Unless YouTube fucks up big time, nothing will touch it, especially since they are the most “generous” with their payouts to creators. Only if someone steps up with a platform just as good as YouTube (UI, infrastructure) AND pays a bigger share, maybe it will happen. But video streaming is a thankless business so I personally doubt it will happen anytime soon.
How can a competitor handle Google dropping ads and/or pricing and run at a loss until the competitor is bought or destroyed outright? Google has too much money and existing infrastructure for someone other than say Amazon to compete with YouTube and god help us if that’s the alternative we get.
Don’t forget they want to introduce things like WEI to lock down what devices and plugins you can even use on your own computer. That’s what Google stands for.

They’re definitely burning more money than they would gain from winning the battle

Maybe at the moment, but I suspect part of the motivation for this is that they are trying to prevent another “adpocalypse” type boycott from their advertisers.

Yeah, no. I’m not willing to even have the ad for any amount of time. IMO ads should be banned, and before anyone reaponds, no i don’t give a shit about the consequences of something like that

i don’t give a shit about the consequences of a change that substancial

Aaaah, the very sign of a simple mind.

I have less problems with actually watching it than the fact that those ads they serve are very often times completely inappropriate and not respecting my online privacy.
Same here. If I’m watching a biography about Nathaniel Hawthorne, then why would I want to see an ad where someone is twerking their ass in my face?
Ya know the “it’s for targeted ads” is total bullshit. Where the fuck are the targeted ads YouTube. These data collectors are creeps. Simple as that.

A year or so I turned off targeted ads from Google. I very quickly noticed an increase in ads with anime tiddies.

I guess Google sees a correlation between people who worry about privacy, and people who are likely to click on anime tiddies…

and so the cat and mouse game continued…
In before Ads are recorded at 1/16th the speed in order to play at the correct speed with one of those extensions.
Just a quick “BUY THIS” followed by a photo of Brad Pitt.
But then they only get 1/16th the frames?
I suppose it depends on your system’s abilities, but my guess would had been that you get all frames but for shorter period of time

It’s cool and all but it’s still that annoying break when you are trying to enjoy a video or learn something.

This will take you out of the flow also.

If you have an iPhone, just use safari with the baking soda and vinegar extensions. It removes all of the ads and allows you to cast it to your big screen.
Imagine using Chrome 😂
Some people have to use it for work. Including me, although I don’t have this problem because I don’t use it for YouTube.
I’ve been A/B testing Chrome and Firefox at work since we’ve had it drilled into us that we absolutely have to use Chrome. I haven’t had a single issue with Firefox, even with internal web apps. Your mileage may vary though.
They’re probably not making the infrastructure decisions around which browser they get to use.
True. Having said that in the majority of workplaces you can still download another browser if you wanted. If Firefox works just as well as chrome, why not use it.
For me specifically (though I don’t use it for YouTube) the work apps I’m required to use are codes for a chromium browser and the IT department doesn’t want us downloading anything to the work units. So I either have to use edge or chrome (both of which are provided). If the work apps don’t work with one we’re instructed to switch to the other and so on. When I was in the military we were told to use Internet explorer and a lot of websites made for the military didn’t work without it. This is a legitimate thing.